experience? How large of a guy who is un-trained need to be to defeat a smaller professional boxer with just brute strength?
experience? How large of a guy who is un-trained need to be to defeat a smaller professional boxer with just brute strength?
At boxing (a highly technical game), or at fighting (like MMA sport)?
Does the little guy have to win or just successfully defend? That makes a big difference.
I would not bet against a pro boxer. Most people have not taken many punches to the face. Much less from a pro boxer.
I’m guessing the big guy might succeed with a full bull rush, but the boxer will likely know this and is probably very good and anticipating and countering.
Interesting question.
Marquis de Queensbury wrote:
At boxing (a highly technical game), or at fighting (like MMA sport)?
I am talking about a street fight.
Boxing is not a street fight. Any boxer will tell you that even two boxers wouldn't box in a street fight.
I would still take a professional boxer over someone 80% bigger than him, but more because of punching power, quickness, and endurance. None of that will help if the fight goes to the ground, tho.
I guess my point is that out of any mainstream combat sports, boxing would probably be of less benefit than wrestling, BJJ, or general MMA.
200lber would crush even a pro 125lb boxer.
125lber just doesn’t have enough power.
the 200 lb. guy would be as slow as molasses compared the the 125 lb. boxer.
I would put my money on the boxer.
200lbs wrote:
200lber would crush even a pro 125lb boxer.
125lber just doesn’t have enough power.
Not in a boxing match. And if you disagree, that's fine... but, you're wrong.
200lbs wrote:
200lber would crush even a pro 125lb boxer.
125lber just doesn’t have enough power.
The boxer would have a chance in a boxing match, but not in a street fight.
200lbs wrote:
200lber would crush even a pro 125lb boxer.
125lber just doesn’t have enough power.
CORRECT!
That 125 pound boxer (actually 126 for the weight class) is probably walking around at 145 or so on the street. Someone at that weight is also probably 5' 6" or 5' 7" with a reach that seems longer for the height.
I mean most "street fights" aren't well thought out events. Some dude pushes someone at a bar followed by some chaos.
A friend of mine basically witnessed this imagined scenario, with a 122 pound contender leaving a much larger guy in pile on the floor with one punch.
For some type of real example of a featherweight boxer and a midweight athlete:
Manny Pacquiao weighs 146 lbs.
Michael Jordan weighs 216 lbs.
I think the boxer would win in a boxing ring or street fight depending on many other factors.
We've all seen the princess bride. Even andre the giant will lose
Which of them is indulging their Second Amend. rights?
YES...
The boxer has toughness, speed and accuracy and most importantly, experience to match..
You pretty boys don't know anything about fighting. A trained 125 lb. boxer would wreck an in-shape 200 pound guy without good fighting skills and conditioning. Might even knock him out. Obviously a trained MMA guy at 200 pounds is a reverse outcome.
Soft runnah bois wrote:
You pretty boys don't know anything about fighting. A trained 125 lb. boxer would wreck an in-shape 200 pound guy without good fighting skills and conditioning. Might even knock him out. Obviously a trained MMA guy at 200 pounds is a reverse outcome.
Yep, fighting is just as much mental as it is physical. The experienced pro will wreck you in the mind game alone since you're probably not used to being hit and will be more risk averse than the experience fighter. So they'll get you on that fear before anything else.
You're not going to put up your best fight if you're afraid of what may come. The pro fighter is accustomed to the brutality and are not going to be thinking about the possibility of getting hurt. They're going for your head with 100% focus.
Soft runnah bois wrote:
You pretty boys don't know anything about fighting. A trained 125 lb. boxer would wreck an in-shape 200 pound guy without good fighting skills and conditioning. Might even knock him out. Obviously a trained MMA guy at 200 pounds is a reverse outcome.
Do you know how tiny 125 pounds is? Itty-bitty.
Always thought the big guy would crush the little guy until a saw a big dude get into it with Michael Carbahal, who was 5'5 and about 115. The big guy got hit about 20 times in the head before he even extended his arm to punch. His face was all jacked up..
tiny dude wrote:
Soft runnah bois wrote:
You pretty boys don't know anything about fighting. A trained 125 lb. boxer would wreck an in-shape 200 pound guy without good fighting skills and conditioning. Might even knock him out. Obviously a trained MMA guy at 200 pounds is a reverse outcome.
Do you know how tiny 125 pounds is? Itty-bitty.
Doesn't matter especially if it is very hard solid muscle. 125 pounds of extremely dense muscle, but more importantly, having limbs trained at delivering maximum force and accuracy with each punch, is important.
A baseball bat weighs significantly less than 100 pounds. Doesn't mean you can't do serious damage with it if you direct the force of your swing at the optimal angle.