Transgender boy wins girls’ state wrestling title for second time

This is not this kid's fault. Hopefully, this type of situation will force Texas to adopt the NCAA rules on this matter.

Ghhhjjhhhh wrote:

This is not this kid's fault. Hopefully, this type of situation will force Texas to adopt the NCAA rules on this matter.

Yeah, it's absolutely this kid's fault.

The look on that ref's face says it all.

Well actually, if the article is to believed, it is NOT the kid's fault.

its been posted

*transgenger girl

you are so wrong wrote:

Ghhhjjhhhh wrote:

This is not this kid's fault. Hopefully, this type of situation will force Texas to adopt the NCAA rules on this matter.

Yeah, it's absolutely this kid's fault.

I'm trying to understand your reasoning here. Mack asked to wrestle in the boys' event but cannot due to Texas high school athletics rules. Should Mack be denied the chance to wrestle at all? Is that a better outcome?

Count Chocula wrote:

you are so wrong wrote:

Yeah, it's absolutely this kid's fault.

I'm trying to understand your reasoning here. Mack asked to wrestle in the boys' event but cannot due to Texas high school athletics rules. Should Mack be denied the chance to wrestle at all? Is that a better outcome?

-No one forced him to get a sex change

-No one forced him to be a wrestler

*her

YMMV wrote:

The look on that ref's face says it all.

I'm pretty sure he only has one look.

Count Chocula wrote:

you are so wrong wrote:

Yeah, it's absolutely this kid's fault.

I'm trying to understand your reasoning here. Mack asked to wrestle in the boys' event but cannot due to Texas high school athletics rules. Should Mack be denied the chance to wrestle at all? Is that a better outcome?

Yes because he/she/xe is a PED cheat

you are so wrong wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

I'm trying to understand your reasoning here. Mack asked to wrestle in the boys' event but cannot due to Texas high school athletics rules. Should Mack be denied the chance to wrestle at all? Is that a better outcome?

-No one forced him to get a sex change

-No one forced him to be a wrestler

Thanks for the response. If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting that rather than be allowed to compete in the boys' division, a person who is born female and transitions to male should not be allowed to compete at all?

Hardloper wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

I'm trying to understand your reasoning here. Mack asked to wrestle in the boys' event but cannot due to Texas high school athletics rules. Should Mack be denied the chance to wrestle at all? Is that a better outcome?

Yes because he/she/xe is a PED cheat

But those PEDs are legal in the boys' division!

Count Chocula wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

Yes because he/she/xe is a PED cheat

But those PEDs are legal in the boys' division!

No they aren't

Hardloper wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

But those PEDs are legal in the boys' division!

No they aren't

Yes they are

Hardloper wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

But those PEDs are legal in the boys' division!

No they aren't

A - the NCAA has resolved the PED issue for transgenders a long time ago

B - this wrestler is probably more of a guy than 80% of the male posters on this board.

Count Chocula wrote:

you are so wrong wrote:

-No one forced him to get a sex change

-No one forced him to be a wrestler

Thanks for the response. If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting that rather than be allowed to compete in the boys' division, a person who is born female and transitions to male should not be allowed to compete at all?

This kid made certain decisions and those decisions have consequences. Right now this person is competing on an unequal basis and there's no one else to blame for that.

you are so wrong wrote:

Count Chocula wrote:

Thanks for the response. If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting that rather than be allowed to compete in the boys' division, a person who is born female and transitions to male should not be allowed to compete at all?

This kid made certain decisions and those decisions have consequences. Right now this person is competing on an unequal basis and there's no one else to blame for that.

Okay, I can see your point. I don't think it's fair to say "the kid bears no fault for this happening", but I do think it's fair to say, "the current system has some shortcomings that can lead to suboptimal results". Cheers.

Count Chocula wrote:

you are so wrong wrote:

This kid made certain decisions and those decisions have consequences. Right now this person is competing on an unequal basis and there's no one else to blame for that.

Okay, I can see your point. I don't think it's fair to say "the kid bears no fault for this happening", but I do think it's fair to say, "the current system has some shortcomings that can lead to suboptimal results". Cheers.

He is a senior, so he will be able to compete against the men in the NCAA system next year. I assume that he is good enough to compete in the NCAA (maybe I'm wrong).

Hopefully, Texas fixes their rules soon.