Is anna rohrer update?

Put a fork in her

Coach Sparks was not smart enough to have her shut it down when she got hurt last year. His defense is something stupid like "she wanted to do it". YOU ARE THE COACH the athlete will always make the wrong decision on their own.

Pay attention High School Athletes.

Notre Dame is a guarantee to destroy talent.

Rohrer, Finn and Ostrander are going to be hard-pressed to have pro careers at this point. If you are beat-up all through college, good luck trying to make U.S. teams post-college. Shades of Lisa Uhl-Koll.

Meanwhile, Purrier and Schweizer show tremendous durability and consistency.

Unless your name is Molly.

Molly Huddle and Molly Seidel have turned out okay.

Molly huddle has nothing to do with the current coaching staff.

Molly Seidel was forced to sign for half of her worth because they destroyed her Senior year. She didn't even run at Nationals.

Piss poor coaching.

talent scout wrote:

Rohrer, Finn and Ostrander are going to be hard-pressed to have pro careers at this point. If you are beat-up all through college, good luck trying to make U.S. teams post-college. Shades of Lisa Uhl-Koll.

Meanwhile, Purrier and Schweizer show tremendous durability and consistency.

This is an idiotic post. So, you think Ihmels (himself an accomplished runner) would ruin AllieO's long-term career by making her run "beat-up all through college"? You are an idiot just for making this suggestion! Yes, of course he wants her to run well in NCAA events, but just as importantly for her career and his own, he surely wants AllieO to do well after she leaves BSU.

talent scout wrote:

Rohrer, Finn and Ostrander are going to be hard-pressed to have pro careers at this point. If you are beat-up all through college, good luck trying to make U.S. teams post-college. Shades of Lisa Uhl-Koll.

Meanwhile, Purrier and Schweizer show tremendous durability and consistency.

I disagree with these as examples of poor college coaching. Rohrer is a tremendous talent with questionable biomechanics and a long injury history that was well documented in HS. Blaming current college coach for current injuries misses those points. Lisa Uhl wasn't hurt in college but she trained a ton of miles. Her injuries happened post grad. Michigan does not have a reputation for chewing up talent. Most of their top runners are healthy and competing most of the time. I predict Finn will be a good pro if she can find balance.

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talent scout wrote:

Rohrer, Finn and Ostrander are going to be hard-pressed to have pro careers at this point. If you are beat-up all through college, good luck trying to make U.S. teams post-college. Shades of Lisa Uhl-Koll.

Meanwhile, Purrier and Schweizer show tremendous durability and consistency.

I disagree with these as examples of poor college coaching. Rohrer is a tremendous talent with questionable biomechanics and a long injury history that was well documented in HS. Blaming current college coach for current injuries misses those points. Lisa Uhl wasn't hurt in college but she trained a ton of miles. Her injuries happened post grad. Michigan does not have a reputation for chewing up talent. Most of their top runners are healthy and competing most of the time. I predict Finn will be a good pro if she can find balance.

You nailed almost everything. Rohr did bring an injury history with her to ND. The problem is that Sparks knew this and still ran her hurt. He did not pull the plug during the conference met last track season. She was already hurt at this point. He then took her to Kentucky for First Round. Why? She still hasn't recovered. That decision may have ended her career.

Thanks for the clarification. You are right if Sparks ran her hurt with her history that's a problem

I hope she recovers to go pro. But the recent record of developing guys there has been terrible. We will see what they do with the great recruiting class they have.

I never said that the college program(s) were at fault, just that being beat up in college bodes poorly for a pro career. If you look at the top pros almost all of them made it through college pretty smoothly. Molly Seidel might turn out to be a rare exception here, and she was only dinged up in her senior year if I recall correctly.

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So, you think Ihmels (himself an accomplished runner) would ruin AllieO's long-term career by making her run "beat-up all through college"? You are an idiot just for making this suggestion! Yes, of course he wants her to run well in NCAA events, but just as importantly for her career and his own, he surely wants AllieO to do well after she leaves BSU.

He won FL and was AA a few times at Iowa State, I'm not sure that gives him any sort of insight into the big picture. He did not have a long post-collegiate career. There are many great athletes who become average coaches, with flaws and blind spots like all the rest of us.

I think it's worth noting here that both Ihmels' teams at Iowa State and especially at Boise State have had real problems with eating disorders. A failure to address those issues, and to allow athletes to continue running in spite of an obvious problem, does not demonstrate a good grasp of the long-term picture.

He did run her injured and that was an epic blunder. But he is working with an empty bench. No NCAA in XC, not one athlete made in at indoors either. ND could go back to being a force, but they need to invest and build a program like they had in the past. Buying a few elites is not coaching. Depending on your mid-distance runners to fill the gaps didn't work so well this year either.

Predictor wrote:

I hope she recovers to go pro. But the recent record of developing guys there has been terrible. We will see what they do with the great recruiting class they have.

Just not true.

What is true is that, when Piane left and Sparks took over, they didn't recruit guys. Now that Carlson is coaching the guys, the recruiting has picked up.

And, this year, the recruits that they have on campus have done very well.

I do agree that we'll see with this incoming class. That will be the test of developing talent.

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talent scout wrote:

Rohrer, Finn and Ostrander are going to be hard-pressed to have pro careers at this point. If you are beat-up all through college, good luck trying to make U.S. teams post-college. Shades of Lisa Uhl-Koll.

Meanwhile, Purrier and Schweizer show tremendous durability and consistency.

This is an idiotic post. So, you think Ihmels (himself an accomplished runner) would ruin AllieO's long-term career by making her run "beat-up all through college"? You are an idiot just for making this suggestion! Yes, of course he wants her to run well in NCAA events, but just as importantly for her career and his own, he surely wants AllieO to do well after she leaves BSU.

Allie Ostrander's biggest issue is her eating issues. I do not know where she is today with that, but she clearly had an eating disorder at some point, because there are lots of pictures out there of her with lanugo on her arms.

Allie Ostrander's biggest issue is her eating issues. I do not know where she is today with that, but she clearly had an eating disorder at some point, because there are lots of pictures out there of her with lanugo on her arms.[/quote]

Considering the recurrence of stress fractures/bone injuries, t is highly likely she has the female athlete triad--under/disordered eating, over training, amenorrhea, low BMD.

reaaalist wrote:

Allie Ostrander's biggest issue is her eating issues. I do not know where she is today with that, but she clearly had an eating disorder at some point, because there are lots of pictures out there of her with lanugo on her arms.

Considering the recurrence of stress fractures/bone injuries, t is highly likely she has the female athlete triad--under/disordered eating, over training, amenorrhea, low BMD.[/quote]

It’s not called Female Athlete Triad any more it’s called Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport and there’s no evidence she has eating issues...one stress fracture and a stress reaction isn’t exactly uncommon

But who knows

Anna broke her feet twice in HS and had surgery. She's very injury-prone.