Banning Semi-Automatic Weapons. Thoughts from a gun owner.

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    Jerry Maguire

    Member since 08/15/2016.

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    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:24pm EST

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

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    moist

    Member since 10/12/2017.

    733 posts. Last post 3 weeks ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:27pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Would love to see proof of your gun ownership and CCW. This sounds like more canned garbage from Everytown. How much are they paying these days?

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    running commenter

    Member since 10/25/2017.

    861 posts. Last post 4 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:31pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

    I think you'll find that a lot of people share your viewpoint. The problem is that the type of people who share your viewpoint are satisfied posting their positions on social media, and then proceeding to do absolutely nothing about it legislatively. I'm not trying to rag on and type of political leaning here, I'm just saying a lot of my friends and family who post about these issues are interested in making a statement to all of those who follow them on social media and then leaving it at that.

    The real issue with these situations in America is everyone has a loud bark, but no bite. Sharing articles on facebook and liking thought-provoking statuses doesn't seem to get very far when it comes to changing an amendment.

  • Think for once

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:33pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    I guess the guy in this picture on the ground wishes he had the gun of his choice when his Govt either went bad or abandoned him.

    https://www.iraqinews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ISIS-Execution.jpg

    Girly men are plenty

    https://pics.onsizzle.com/european-europen-men-then-men-now-refugees-welcom-here-6748153.png

  • He supports you

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:37pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

    He supports you

    http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/participants-march-in-the-gay-pride-parade-on-june-28-2015-in-new-picture-id478905644
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    DiscoGary

    Member since 03/06/2015.

    5,018 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:39pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

    Using this logic we would then have to ban any weapon that was successfully used in a mass murder. If someone managed to kill 20 people with a 6 shooter, then it gets banned. If someone takes down an office building full of people with a box cutter, then the box cutter gets banned. If someone drives a truck through a crowd and kills 20 people, then trucks get banned. If someone blows up a pressure cooker at a marathon, then pressure cookers get banned.

    Or maybe this logic doesn't work so well. Maybe it isn't the gun, box cutter, truck, or pressure cooker that's causing the problem.

  • Try Harder

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:40pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

    No gun owner calls a magazine a "clip".

    If you really wanted to do damage in close quarters like a school just grab a couple DP12s and go to town with some 00 buck.

  • macdaddy

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:41pm EST
    re: Think for once

    Think for once wrote:

    I guess the guy in this picture on the ground wishes he had the gun of his choice when his Govt either went bad or abandoned him.

    And I guess all the dead children/students/teachers/families wish that their Govt didn't abandoned them to line their pockets with NRA cash, but that's the way the world works, huh?

  • macdaddy

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:43pm EST
    re: DiscoGary

    DiscoGary wrote:

    Or maybe this logic doesn't work so well.

    Crazy Gary.... you used to at least present decent arguments.. what happened to you? Getting old or just don't have the energy anymore?

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    L L

    Member since 03/29/2017.

    4,588 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:43pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    ...

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun.

    So why did you get it in the first place?

  • Jerry Macgire spotted

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:44pm EST
    re: Try Harder

    I agree

    Clip

    Lol

    Jerry MacGire was spotted reading to kids at a library in San Francisco.

    He would take your guns.

    And your kids.

    https://conservativepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/drag-queeen-book-4-1024x521.jpg

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    running commenter

    Member since 10/25/2017.

    861 posts. Last post 4 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:46pm EST
    re: DiscoGary

    DiscoGary wrote:

    Or maybe this logic doesn't work so well. Maybe it isn't the gun, box cutter, truck, or pressure cooker that's causing the problem.

    Here's a crazy thought that I never hear anyone say... maybe it's both those weapons AND mental illness??

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    Karl Hungus

    Member since 11/22/2016.

    2,379 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:50pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Why would a "law abiding gun owner" possess weapons of death like revolvers since they were used in the Civil War, America's most deadliest war?

  • moose lake

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:51pm EST
    re: DiscoGary

    DiscoGary wrote:

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

    Using this logic we would then have to ban any weapon that was successfully used in a mass murder. If someone managed to kill 20 people with a 6 shooter, then it gets banned. If someone takes down an office building full of people with a box cutter, then the box cutter gets banned. If someone drives a truck through a crowd and kills 20 people, then trucks get banned. If someone blows up a pressure cooker at a marathon, then pressure cookers get banned.

    Or maybe this logic doesn't work so well. Maybe it isn't the gun, box cutter, truck, or pressure cooker that's causing the problem.

    So I guess you'd say we shouldn't build a wall because it won't be 100% effective. I'm glad you're consistent in your logic.

    I'd also assume, by using your "logic", you'd want fully auto weapons to be manufactured and easily purchased again? How about RPG's? Tell me, what kind of weaponry should I not be allowed to have?

    I actually walked past a functioning nuclear reactor every day in college. Should I be able to enrich uranium to build a tactical nuke to prevent a tyrannical government?

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    L L

    Member since 03/29/2017.

    4,588 posts. Last post 2 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 2:57pm EST
    re: running commenter

    running commenter wrote:

    Here's a crazy thought that I never hear anyone say... maybe it's both those weapons AND mental illness??

    Good thing we have a stable genius with access to nuclear weapons.

  • just a dead gorilla

    Harambe

    Member since 08/11/2016.

    14,223 posts. Last post 35 minutes ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 3:00pm EST
    re: L L

    Banning semi-autos could really help reduce gun homicide after like 30 years as all the current guns trickle out of use.

    Half of all gun deaths are suicide. Removing semi-autos probably leads to less overall gun ownership so less of those.

    Mass shootings -- presumably would help along the same lines.

    Any of these changes will probalby take decades to show any real effect, no?

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    running commenter

    Member since 10/25/2017.

    861 posts. Last post 4 years ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 3:00pm EST
    re: L L

    L L wrote:

    running commenter wrote:

    Here's a crazy thought that I never hear anyone say... maybe it's both those weapons AND mental illness??

    Good thing we have a stable genius with access to nuclear weapons.

    Ah yes, we are in safe (tiny) hands.

  • moose lake

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 3:06pm EST
    re: L L

    Anyway, my own thoughts on this are yes, make manufacturing of semi-auto weapons illegal. Those currently in circulation can be bought back voluntarily for roughly the value of the gun. Those that wish to keep their guns must go through the same process as those that wish to possess full auto weapons. That's a stringent FBI background check and the local police are notified that you have the gun(s) among other requirements. Those that fail the background check are also compensated. Since 1986 when this legislation was passed regarding full autos not a single mass shooting has taken place using one. Also, rifles and shotguns can be purchased at age 18, handguns at 25 and semi and full auto at age 30.

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    moist

    Member since 10/12/2017.

    733 posts. Last post 3 weeks ago.
    6 years ago 02/21/2018 3:19pm EST
    re: moose lake

    moose lake wrote:

    Anyway, my own thoughts on this are yes, make manufacturing of semi-auto weapons illegal. Those currently in circulation can be bought back voluntarily for roughly the value of the gun. Those that wish to keep their guns must go through the same process as those that wish to possess full auto weapons. That's a stringent FBI background check and the local police are notified that you have the gun(s) among other requirements. Those that fail the background check are also compensated. Since 1986 when this legislation was passed regarding full autos not a single mass shooting has taken place using one. Also, rifles and shotguns can be purchased at age 18, handguns at 25 and semi and full auto at age 30.

    Were there any before 1986? Serious question as trying to google this stat gets you overwhelmed with propaganda. Also I'm not sure you are correct that no full autos have been used since. There are automatic weapons on the streets, and I would expect at some point in the last 32 years that one has been used in a mass shooting.

    Re: semi-autos. To give you a thoughtful response, modern semi-auto handguns have FAR more safety features than a revolver. The vast majority of revolvers don't even have a simply safety switch. It would be poor policy to restrict individuals to revolvers.

    https://crimefictionbook.com/2015/08/13/do-revolvers-have-safeties/

  • Now That's Telling It Like It Is

    Anonymous Poster

    6 years ago 02/21/2018 3:21pm EST
    re: Jerry Maguire

    Jerry Maguire wrote:

    Who here would support a ban on Semi-Automatic weapons (Rifles & Handguns).

    Me? I own 5 firearms, including a semi-automatic handgun.

    I have had a concealed carry permit for over decade.

    Would it not be enough to just own Shotguns, Revolvers, and Bolt Action Rifles?

    The ability to unload 10-30 rounds as fast as you can pull the trigger and then reload immediately with another clip. Repeat. Repeat.... Is only required in a Military conflict. Has no place in a society.

    I would like to see someone pull off the type of mass shootings we have grown accustomed to with a 6 shooter revolver, or a bolt action rifle. Do you know how long it takes to reload those things? Obviously there would still be shootings, but the chance of mass casualties would drop significantly.

    If you cannot protect yourself and property with either a shotgun, revolver, or bolt action rifle... you suck and wouldn't be able to with a semi-automatic weapon.

    I'd gladly handover (buy back program) my semi-automatic handgun. I'll keep my .38 revolver, 12 gauge, and .270 Winchester.

    +1

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