Can Coleman break Bolts 100m WR? Hes clearly got the acceleration, but does he have the top speed like Bolt did? Does his dominance in the 60m mean anything for the OD season?
Can Coleman break Bolts 100m WR? Hes clearly got the acceleration, but does he have the top speed like Bolt did? Does his dominance in the 60m mean anything for the OD season?
No.
He clearly does NOT have the acceleration. Bolt ran 6.31 in his 100 record.
And no, he clearly does not have the top speed that Bolt does. The best part of Coleman's race is the start. The worst part of Bolt's race is the start. Add another 40m and Coleman is out of the picture compared to '09 Bolt form.
I have to say that running 9.82 at age 21 was pretty good for Coleman (no one has ever run that fast at that age).
Now he is the 60m indoor world record holder and still hasn't turned 22 yet.
He can get 9.58 with the right coach and doctor.
I think Coleman can beat his own 60m record - as well as Bolt's en route 6.31 - but he lacks Bolt's top speed to be able to carry out a sub-9.58.
just an FYI Bolts 6.31 was outdoor with a slight wind behind his back!
For those who want to work a little math.
go check bolts split figures for each 10m against his stride length and rate
and the get the figures from Colemans 60 this weekend (which again FYI if you need reminding is from February!!!!!)
What I think you may be able to work out is, that although stride length might not be as high his rate is higher! if he can maintain the rate for longer there is a very strong chance indeed, though I predict a 9.67 this year
no.....the only american who can break the WR will have to be an athletic freak like randy moss.
im sure most people on here will talk sh*t and tell me how dumb i am, but i think moss was the american equivalent of bolt.
6'5, super athletic, huge vertical leap, and ran like a 4.2 or whatever in a 40. thats pretty insane for a tall guy. and i believe he ran a 21 low indoor on no training whatsoever while he was in college.
problem in the US is anyone with wheels like that, and tall will 98% go NFL and other 2% go NBA...(moss was a top HS basketballer as well). so as far as US sprinting is concerned we get these 5'6-5'9 guys that have explosive starts and fast turnover, but top end speed will never be to bolts lever because of the lack of height.
2. the best sprinters that we do have at that height are either point guards or running backs. yes track requires talent but in order to maximize the phases of the 100m you also need superior athleticism. you not only need incredible strength and flexibility and a huge vertical for the drive phase, but the coordination to execute it to perfection.
my opinion, in order to beat bolts WR, you will need someone over 6'2, big explosive vertical and extremely coordinated, another randy moss...who decides to do track instead of make millions in the NFL.
bolt was/is amazing, but he is nowhere close to the athleticism that moss had.
found this....(if anyone has info on the conference meet, please share)
"Moss, practiced with the team for all of 3 days, and then competed in the Southern Conference championships. He won the 55 meter dash in a school record of 6.32, and then won the 200 in 21.15, qualifying for NCAA's (evidently, he DNS'ed). Yes, 21.15 indoors. Even more amazing is that that was probably on a flat track. The Marshall University coach predictably raved: ""Randy could be a world-class sprinter," notes Coach Jeff Small. "He's by far the best runner I've ever seen. That includes Michael Johnson and Carl Lewis."
other sites are saying it was a 150m track as well.
it was 1997
http://www.soconsports.com/fls/4000/socon/files/itk_history.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=4000
i dont know what a 6.32 55m converts to, but a 21.15 indoor on 3 days of practice on supposedly a 150m track is pretty insane.
No, but he has a shot of beating Gay's 9.69 American Record which would put him at #2 all time.
[3.1]Miles Davis wrote:
Can Coleman break Bolts 100m WR? Hes clearly got the acceleration, but does he have the top speed like Bolt did? Does his dominance in the 60m mean anything for the OD season?
No, 60m to 100m is like 20 miles to 26.2 miles in the marathon. Things fall apart for some people. Coleman's ability to run a great 60 does not necessarily translate to a WR 100. He's clearly improved, so he may run as fast as 9.6 high, but that's it for him.
You do not need to be tall to run a fast 100m just because Bolt was tall.
The prior record holder was 5'9" and you could have used the argument that being 6'5" would be a disadvatage.
No chance he can do it.
Bolt went 6.31 (1.99, .99, .90, .86, .83, .82) then
.81
.82
.83
.83 = 3.27 ( all the thousandths are rounded up)
Coleman's ran 6.38 to 60m then his last 40m at World Champs was
.88
.88
.88
.92
In his collegiate record 9.82 he might have hit .85 and maintained it for for a bit longer but he will never get to the .82/3 range of top end speed needed to get close to Bolt's WR. He MIGHT run 9.6 HIGH but will never touch the record.
Star wrote:
You do not need to be tall to run a fast 100m just because Bolt was tall.
The prior record holder was 5'9" and you could have used the argument that being 6'5" would be a disadvatage.
yeah and the prior record was 9.79 by a PED user, and then slowly dropped down to 9.77-9.72 by a 6'3 asafa powell (also has served a suspension)
you have two 9.69's from gay (5'10) and blake (5'11). gay was busted for an undisclosed PED and blake did a quiet ban and hasnt been close to his PED use days since, i think struggling to run 9.9s now.
so your statement is about as worthless as anything that has ever been said on LR
bolt ran 9.58, a FULL .10 faster than the next fastest drugged out 5'10/11 guys, making the next fastest being powell and he is 6'3. sorry to tell you buddy but 9.72 is FASTER than 9.79 buy a drugged up johnson and more than likely 5'9 drugged up maurice green
you want to run under 9.70? you need to be tall and fast. quick turnover aint going to get you there if your stride is short.
If you saw my first response I implied he would need drugs.
I am also not sure that Bolt was clean.
There is no correlation to between height and 100m time when you look at the event statistically.
Coleman ran .12 slower than his own PR at WCs last year so why would you uses any stats from that race?
It's very unlikely that Coleman ever runs under 9.60. I get that.
But every record out there was very unlikely until it happened.
No one saw Bolt running 9.69 the year before he actually did it.
when you look at the history of PED users in the 100m you can see that bolt would run something like that, but only in hindsight.
give or take i would say PED use gives you around .4 to .5 second improvement in the 100m
so when bolt ran a 10.09 or whatever it was in his first ever 100m, it was on like donkey kong. most of the top guys were 10.20-10.50 range pre sauce. bolt was 10.09....thats the difference.
If Coleman is currently clean, then he can get down to 9.50.
i would guess he was a 10.30 guy in hs so at best he is a 9.79-9.80 guy....
hate to say it, but i was right again
https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=4065313#!/L4
His progression is pretty nice
10.30 age 18
10.18 age 19
9.95 age 20
9.82 age 21
What’s the chance Coleman is clean right now? As for the 9.79, I believe that was Maurice Greene Pr? How did speculation of his drug use come up?
1) Most off season football practice is probably pretty close to ideal training for the 55m/60m, so he probably wouldnt have gone much faster if he had been running track the whole time.
2) 55m in 6.32 converts to about 6.75 for the 60m. Keep in mind that Bolt while training for the 100m would have been at 60m before Moss reached 55m, at a time when Moss was training basically for the 55/60m. How do you look at that and think Moss could have challenged bolt?
Moss could probably have been world class, sure. But he wasnt going to challenge Bolt's record in the 100m.