Question in the title: any thoughts?
Looking for real examples or hypothetical guesses
Question in the title: any thoughts?
Looking for real examples or hypothetical guesses
Paul Ballinger (2:10:15) ran 13.47. in 1976 at Aucklands Mt Smart, then 2:10 winning Fukuoka in 1982...
He couldn't break 60s for 400m at any point of his career either
Anders Szalkai has a 14:29 5k pr and 2:12 marathon.
Ian Thompson did 14:05/2:09:12.
ryanballinger wrote:
Paul Ballinger (2:10:15) ran 13.47. in 1976 at Aucklands Mt Smart, then 2:10 winning Fukuoka in 1982...
He couldn't break 60s for 400m at any point of his career either
How's your dad doing? Does he do any running these days?
HRE wrote:
Ian Thompson did 14:05/2:09:12.
The 2:09 was done in a championship race too, just imagine the gains from modern pacing.
Do you guys/girls think that they are all ACTN3 reccesive?
Yuki Kawauchi, Japan: 13:59 over 5000m and, 29:01 over 10 000m
2:08:14 also 2 marathons in 2 weeks under 2:10, still activ.
Kjell Erik Stahl impressive 29:48 to 2:10:38 in the 1983 world-marathon-championship
while he was working full time, his last sub. 2:20 marathon with the age of 49 after 2 surgeries
Sören Kah from germany, actually 36 years old,
8:14 over 3000m and 14:0...Min. 5000m and 2:13:57 in marathon, with 3:02 Min./km pace the last 2, 195 km average,
he is still active, and was stop running between his 20 and 27 ages, but 4 knee injuries
changed a lot in his career
The big rob De Castella also wasn´t fast over the short distances
in ran 2:09/2:10
It is also a question, who was the weather on that day, how long did he focus
and what distances and so on...
Anyone know if Dick Beardsley has a 5k PR on record? He ran 2:08:53 at Boston in 1982 and 2:09:37 at Grandma's Marathon in 1981. Never struck me as a guy who could rip on a track
Michael Fietz 13:41 Min. over 5000m, 61:18 in halvemarathon
and 2:10:57 in Marathon 1997, he was 37 in the Olympic marathon 2000
and is also from germany, he was running while Dieter Baumann won
the olympic gold over 5000m in 1992 and was 4th in 1996 over 5000,
and silver european champion over 10 000m, but Baumann he was
and perfect 5000m and 10 0000m (12:54 and 27:21 Min.) runner,
never ran a faster marathon than 2:30:00, he one quite after 33 k.
New York invited him in 2003, while he was running Against the young
Eluid Kipchoge in Paris over 5000m, but Baumann had an injury and after
2 years of a difficult doping ban, Baumann was 38 years old and still running
professionell since 1988 Olympic in Soeul, so his body and mind was to empty
for top marathons.
Some Years later Baumann finished the 100 k in Biel, losing against
his friend 2:13 marathon-man Martin Grüning a 28 guy over 10 000m.
Son and Daughter of Dieter and Isabell Baumann (Baumanns former Coach)
are actually starting there elite careers....we will see what will happen...
his Daughter was in 2016 Olympic over 400m...
Wow, great answers, thank you everyone. Didn’t realize there were that many “slow-fast” marathoners out there. Great stuff
Derek Clayton only ran 28 40 in 10K but tan a world record marathon.
This is an interesting question but I think the results are going to heavily skewed by some of these runners not bothering to race any serious 5ks at peak fitness. Wilson Kipsang, for example, has a track PR for 10k listed as 28:37 (although he's run 27:32 on the roads) and I can't find his 5k track PR.
A big reason I'm so impressed with Thompson is that he was very serious about the 5,000 when he began running marathons.
Brian Sell's PR is only a 14:31, and he ended up with a 2:10:47 Marathon PR. Here is the link to his 5k PR.
http://www.sfuathletics.com/documents/2017/7/5/MTF_RecordBook_TopPerformers.pdf
I lied...14:31 Indoor. 14:03 outdoors
HRE wrote:
A big reason I'm so impressed with Thompson is that he was very serious about the 5,000 when he began running marathons.
That is interesting. I suppose it's possible that he is just better as the distance gets longer but it also may be that he responded better to the marathon training and his overall fitness improved. Do you know if he ever went back and raced the 5000 after becoming a star in the marathon?
He is doing fine. Not much running nowadays, his knees have pretty much had it. He goes for a walk/jog sometimes when he feels like it. Sticks to mostly cycling these days to keep fit. Is training up for a few weeks of cycling through the French Alps in July with his training partners from here in NZ.
Bob Kempainen 2:08, 13:44. Could not break 60s 400.
15:24.94