nontrumper wrote:
These indictments are far from frivolous. And there are many, many indictments on the way.
Of course they are. Russians said mean things on Facebook about Hillary?
The guys indicted are all not subject to US law.
nontrumper wrote:
These indictments are far from frivolous. And there are many, many indictments on the way.
Of course they are. Russians said mean things on Facebook about Hillary?
The guys indicted are all not subject to US law.
Do you honestly think the FBI isn't capable of running multiple investigations at the same time?
Personally, I don't think the FBI can even handle one matter, let alone many.
run with the wom wrote:
The trolls are angry today... like an old man at a deli trying to return his soup.
If you are going to quote Seinfeld, please do so accurately.
George - "... like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."
These indictments are far from frivolous. And there are many, many indictments on the way.
Right up there with the indictment of Rick Perry, Ted Stevens, ...
OTOH, heaps of voter fraudsters get off, most never prosecuted, and even then minor wrist-slaps.
Yet these ppl claim to care about "democracy" somehow?
Flagpole wrote:
Nixon had the authority to fire Archibald Cox, and he did, and that is what led to his resignation.
Trying engaging yourself with some history.
You said you only cared about whether something was "legal".
AFAIK, everyone agrees that what Nixon did vis-a-vis Cox was legal.
E.g. nowhere in the articles of impeachment is it mentioned. The Congressional transcripts are also threadbare on the matter. (The generic impeding of investigation is obviously much wider than just this)
All it did, from a practical standpoint, was mean that Nixon had to appoint someone to replace. Like with Sally Yates, as an analogy. Of/c, the political fallout was more, though to say that the firing of Cox is what "led to his resignation" is to chose one element among many in the mix, giving it undue emphasis IMO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_MassacreThe poisoned roots of the Russiagate investigation or Who will watch the watchmen? Excerpt from the article below:
http://buchanan.org/blog/nunes-duels-deep-state-128665If Americans are losing confidence in the FBI, whose fault is that? Is there not evidence that a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?
Nothing better than watching Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns.
Hahahahaha!!!!!
They sincerely believe a “blue wave” will happen in the midterms. That’s hilarious!!!!!
Mueller? Mueller? Mueller?
Hahahahaha!!!!!
Flagpole wrote:
Trump had the authority to fire Comey, and that is what led to the Special Counsel. You can't abuse power in this country. Trump has done that and Mueller will have an air tight case of obstruction of justice.
You read too many leftist rags. Obstruction of justice requires an actual crime somewhere. Abuse of power (malfeasance, or the related misfeasance or nonfeasance) can't occur without this first element. Your example of Cox shows how deluded you are on the subject. It is only similar in the executive effect, and moreover was never brought up in the proceedings (the *reasons* for the firing, that Nixon refused to turn over tapes, and ordered Cox therein, etc., obviously were of gravamen, and similarly the alleged *reasons* for Comey's dismissal, regarding shutting down the Russia matter, are of more relevance here).
Flagpole wrote: You can't abuse power in this country.
Tell that to the Iranians who received their $1.7 billion for the hostages.
Tell that to the DACA recipients who were "promised" by an unconstitutional program, set up to establish lawlessly to achieve "facts on the ground" and make it politically impossible to extinguish.
Tell that to the foreigners who paid Uranium One money into the Clinton Foundation.
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I am a Republican and I Believe in a moral America. I believe Bill Clinton was a moral degenerate. I believe all the same allegations against Trump are just a bunch of lies (porn stars, adultery, groping, lude comments on tape). I believe that Obama was not born in the US. I believe that Hillary Clinton MUST have broken a law selling a Uranium company that was cleared by a mostly republican oversight panel. I believe that she should be under investigation for things she has already been cleared. I believe there is a Deep State where multiple government agencies are after Trump, but people who have admitted to colluding with Russia to change the election is just a bunch of lies. I believe Trump cannot possibly have ever broken any law and people need to stop looking! Please STOP LOOKING!
And now it is being reported that one more individual in Trump's inner circle Rick Gates will plead guilty to crimes and cooperate with the Mueller probe. No doubt he will be disowned as someone Trump barely new and who was only marginally associated with Trump campaign.
I Believe! wrote:
I am a Republican and I Believe in a moral America. I believe Bill Clinton was a moral degenerate. I believe all the same allegations against Trump are just a bunch of lies (porn stars, adultery, groping, lude comments on tape). I believe that Obama was not born in the US. I believe that Hillary Clinton MUST have broken a law selling a Uranium company that was cleared by a mostly republican oversight panel. I believe that she should be under investigation for things she has already been cleared. I believe there is a Deep State where multiple government agencies are after Trump, but people who have admitted to colluding with Russia to change the election is just a bunch of lies. I believe Trump cannot possibly have ever broken any law and people need to stop looking! Please STOP LOOKING!
Ummm, Mr. "Republican," Strzok and Page of the FBI were not only after Trump, but even showed their contempt for pro-lifers at the annual March for Life in Washington, D.C. Of course people tangled in a sexual affair (Strzok is married, but not to his mistress Page) get especially pissed at opposition to abortion. "Deep State" is going after not only Trump but also others. Perhaps it is the Lois Lerner deja vu all over again.
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834515c5469e201bb09f2a467970d-piI Believe! wrote:
I am a Republican and I Believe in a moral America. I believe Bill Clinton was a moral degenerate. I believe all the same allegations against Trump are just a bunch of lies (porn stars, adultery, groping, lude comments on tape). I believe that Obama was not born in the US. I believe that Hillary Clinton MUST have broken a law selling a Uranium company that was cleared by a mostly republican oversight panel. I believe that she should be under investigation for things she has already been cleared. I believe there is a Deep State where multiple government agencies are after Trump, but people who have admitted to colluding with Russia to change the election is just a bunch of lies. I believe Trump cannot possibly have ever broken any law and people need to stop looking! Please STOP LOOKING!
What is lude? And didn't the Obama was born in Kenya charge originate with Hillary Clinton, the same person who tilted the Democrat primary race against Senator Sanders?
LaughingLoudly wrote:
Nothing better than watching Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns.
You've read this thread and you think it's the Hillary lovers who are melting down? There's something to laugh at.
The Fokus wrote:
LaughingLoudly wrote:
Nothing better than watching Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns.
You've read this thread and you think it's the Hillary lovers who are melting down? There's something to laugh at.
Well, hasn't the RussiaGate investigation been much more embarrassing to the Democrats than to the Trump Administration?
Not lewd wrote:
Well, hasn't the RussiaGate investigation been much more embarrassing to the Democrats than to the Trump Administration?
If you and Pat Buchanan say so.
The Fokus wrote:
LaughingLoudly wrote:
Nothing better than watching Hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns.
You've read this thread and you think it's the Hillary lovers who are melting down? There's something to laugh at.
Donald says the Russians are laughing their ass off at us. He is right they are laughing their asses off.
Donald Trump is our president.
pretty boring stuff wrote:
anyone with a decent brain, some researching skills, and a non-partisan approach could see the whole russia collusion/russia-trump thing was sensationalized from day one. mostly innuendo, distortion, and in some cases outright lies. the dems apparently have had much more to do with russian than the trump campaign ever did. i support trump. the guy destroyed the clinton machine to win the presidency and the dems still cant fathom it
Why won't Trump say one negative thing about Russia's attempt to subvert our democracy?
Why won't he do anything about it?
Why does he act so unhinged? He acts like a man who is very guilty. What is WRONG with him???
Helium wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Trump had the authority to fire Comey, and that is what led to the Special Counsel. You can't abuse power in this country. Trump has done that and Mueller will have an air tight case of obstruction of justice.
You read too many leftist rags. Obstruction of justice requires an actual crime somewhere. Abuse of power (malfeasance, or the related misfeasance or nonfeasance) can't occur without this first element. Your example of Cox shows how deluded you are on the subject. It is only similar in the executive effect, and moreover was never brought up in the proceedings (the *reasons* for the firing, that Nixon refused to turn over tapes, and ordered Cox therein, etc., obviously were of gravamen, and similarly the alleged *reasons* for Comey's dismissal, regarding shutting down the Russia matter, are of more relevance here).
No it doesn't, it just requires evidence that you acted with the intent to obstruct an investigation even if that investigation itself does not uncover a crime. I'm not saying Trump is guilty of that, just saying that you are incorrect in your understanding of what constitutes obstruction of justice.
Why won't Trump say one negative thing about Russia's attempt to subvert our democracy?
Why won't he do anything about it?
Why does he act so unhinged? He acts like a man who is very guilty. What is WRONG with him???
Maybe he doesn't want to spend millions of dollars in a vain attempt to indict internet trolls who will never be extradited to this country in the first place?
Maybe because he doesn't see someone posting on Facebook that "Hillary is a Satan" as "subverting our democracy"?
Show us some actual threat to democracy and we'll stop laughing at Mueller.