How to add more mileage when coach is resistant

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    alabama runner

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 11:33am EST

    I’m looking to get up to around 55mpw from 40. I’ve been able to squeeze 40 in through long cooldowns and running about a mile more than coach wants on the recovery days. If I tried to run too much while at practice then it would be suspicious and he’d get angry (he thinks my legs will disintegrate as soon as I top 45mpw). I’m thinking right now that I should throw in a couple of morning doubles. What’s the best way to go about this? Skipping practice isn’t really an option because I’m a team co-captain and I pretty much have to be there all the time.

    I’m thinking maybe doubling on the mornings of workouts and on the weekends after meets. I also don’t really know which day is best for resting.

    thanks

  • peyto

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 1:46pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    I'd double on easy days starting out and then shorter repeats. I have a teammate in a similar situation as you that doubles every morning unless they are running with the team that morning.

  • Pappy

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 1:52pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    In HS I'd run easy morning runs 2-3 times a week. It would get me an extra 10-15 miles.

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    alabama runner

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 2:23pm EST
    re: peyto

    peyto wrote:

    I'd double on easy days starting out and then shorter repeats. I have a teammate in a similar situation as you that doubles every morning unless they are running with the team that morning.

    Thanks. Hopefully I can get another 10-15 miles a week or so, which should help. Will there be any recovery issues with the doubling? I’ve heard that it releases HGH that can stimulate recovery.

  • u r dum

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 4:34pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    How about you listen to your coach, who probably knows more than the bozos on this site.

  • AMrunner

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 5:52pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    Add a morning run twice a week. Problem solved.

  • BOZ0:59

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 6:17pm EST
    re: u r dum

    u r dum wrote:

    How about you listen to your coach, who probably knows more than the bozos on this site.

    If his coach knew anything he would be one of the bozos on this site.

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    alabama runner

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 6:25pm EST
    re: u r dum

    My coach is a teacher who ran an 18:40 in HS, and the old coach happened to leave the year before. He doesn’t know any training methods other than this program he found on milesplit. I know this because I’ve tried to have conversations with him about training and he doesn’t know what I’m talking about.

  • ur a troll

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    6 years ago 02/16/2018 6:26pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    alabama runner wrote:

    I’m thinking maybe doubling on the mornings of workouts and on the weekends after meets. I also don’t really know which day is best for resting.

    thanks

    Everyone know most schools in the South Region have morning practice. Doubles are in the afternoon.

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    alabama runner

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    6 years ago 02/17/2018 12:15pm EST
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    ur a troll wrote:

    alabama runner wrote:

    I’m thinking maybe doubling on the mornings of workouts and on the weekends after meets. I also don’t really know which day is best for resting.

    thanks

    Everyone know most schools in the South Region have morning practice. Doubles are in the afternoon.

    You live in the south? We do the training in the heat which helps prepare for the meets which will inevitably be run midday. No one has time to run a full practice in the morning.

  • Do it anyway ~ problem solved

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    6 years ago 02/17/2018 1:23pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    alabama runner wrote:

    If I tried to run too much while at practice then it would be suspicious and he’d get angry (he thinks my legs will disintegrate as soon as I top 45mpw).

    You're running for you, not for some POS loser.

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    alabama runner

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    6 years ago 02/17/2018 4:12pm EST
    re: Do it anyway ~ problem solved

    Do it anyway ~ problem solved wrote:

    alabama runner wrote:

    If I tried to run too much while at practice then it would be suspicious and he’d get angry (he thinks my legs will disintegrate as soon as I top 45mpw).

    You're running for you, not for some POS loser.

    You’re right. He’s not a POS, but certainly restrictive. Also I’d have to bring team members along, but they’ll run long if I do. thanks

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    Bob Washington

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    6 years ago 02/18/2018 11:25pm EST
    re: alabama runner

    do you train 7 days a week? Because just adding another long run will help

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