Faster than Top Boss and He Wants to Run Together..

Its like running with your girlfriend if you want to stay in the relationship

I would go for a run with him and halfway thru start whipping his a**. If he is a prick about it then who wants to work for him anyways?! My boss would be mad if he knew I was more fit and didn’t whip his six. ..

A 40 minute 10k means that he probably does easy runs at 7:45 pace. Even the fastest runner can do one run per week at that pace so there should be no problem.

Run a 5k together but throw in a few subtle pick ups to remind him who hobby jogs faster.

Rhobby Jogger wrote:

Run a 5k together but throw in a few subtle pick ups to remind him who hobby jogs faster.

Also run at his pace but talk the whole way.

he hasn't asked you to run with him as a way to improve your career.

he has asked you to run with him to brush up his own ego. he wants to be reassured that he still has it, that he isn't getting old and can still cut the mustard.

just bare that in mind.

two days later he'll be down the golf course bragging to his old buddies about how he smoked some young gun and you'll be history.

so what Rhobby Jogger said, run at his pace and talk the whole way. that way he'll know, without having to admit that he knows.

cheers.

Rhobby Jogger wrote:

Rhobby Jogger wrote:

Run a 5k together but throw in a few subtle pick ups to remind him who hobby jogs faster.

Also run at his pace but talk the whole way.

This may be more of a cycling thing, but don’t forget the subtle move of just staying half a step in front of him the whole time too

I dont get it. You guys are similarly fit, probably off just a couple of Daniels vdots. It's not like you're a 2:20 guy trying to slow down for a 10:00 pace. You guys could easily be daily training partners on easy runs and even some tempo workouts.

Don't wear your dirty, smelly running shorts that day.

Cottonshirt wrote:

he hasn't asked you to run with him as a way to improve your career.

he has asked you to run with him to brush up his own ego. he wants to be reassured that he still has it, that he isn't getting old and can still cut the mustard.

just bare that in mind.

two days later he'll be down the golf course bragging to his old buddies about how he smoked some young gun and you'll be history.

so what Rhobby Jogger said, run at his pace and talk the whole way. that way he'll know, without having to admit that he knows.

cheers.

Lame why not just get on your knees and grovel

Take turn with the pace and hot it up without dropping him. Perhaps he will be impressed you are a good runner

Dontgetit wrote:

I dont get it. You guys are similarly fit, probably off just a couple of Daniels vdots. It's not like you're a 2:20 guy trying to slow down for a 10:00 pace. You guys could easily be daily training partners on easy runs and even some tempo workouts.

Yeh, I don’t get it either. It doesn’t sound like he’s that much slower than you.

foo wrote:

Dontgetit wrote:

I dont get it. You guys are similarly fit, probably off just a couple of Daniels vdots. It's not like you're a 2:20 guy trying to slow down for a 10:00 pace. You guys could easily be daily training partners on easy runs and even some tempo workouts.

Yeh, I don’t get it either. It doesn’t sound like he’s that much slower than you.

i agree. treat it like a social run. if you are a sub 3 guy, then there are tons of your recovery runs near his pace. take it a bit easier one day and hang with him.

i also disagree with earlier posts that he is trying to still show he has it and wants to talk smack to golf buddies later.

i'm in my 40s. i was once a sub 3 marathoner. i run with others at work when i can that are faster than me and those slower than me. again, its a social thing. great to get out at lunch. enjoy the weather. get a workout in and get to know some people you might otherwise not get to know.

by all likely hood, he just wants a running buddy in the office.

don't over think the hierarchy stuff. if he is a decent guy, he just wants to not run alone....

it can be very good for your career as well for him to be your friend. he pays your bonus. decides who gets promoted, etc.

I think you chaps are missing the very obvious subtext the OP is very clearly spelling out here - his still very fit male boss would like to spend some quality time with him out in the open, miles from anywhere...

What advice can we offer in this context?

A few things can happen -

1. you'll have someone to run with

2. he'll get to know you outside of work, could help you get promoted. At least he'll be less likely to sh*t on you if something goes wrong.

3. this may be the only situation where you can have the upper hand on him. If you get the opportunity, you beat his ass. Let him know who the big dog is.

4. If he's pulling some BS at work, you can turn the screws during the run. "Oh, you want me to work on Saturday? Be prepared to f'ing suffer the next time we run"

in all actuality, he probably just wants a running buddy, its a good thing and you should do it.

Cottonshirt wrote:

he hasn't asked you to run with him as a way to improve your career.

he has asked you to run with him to brush up his own ego. he wants to be reassured that he still has it, that he isn't getting old and can still cut the mustard.

just bare that in mind.

two days later he'll be down the golf course bragging to his old buddies about how he smoked some young gun and you'll be history.

so what Rhobby Jogger said, run at his pace and talk the whole way. that way he'll know, without having to admit that he knows.

cheers.

Or finish the run with him, say thank you and you should do it again sometime, and then jog off and say you want to get some more mile sin.

He'll get it then, especially if he's slightly tired.

I couldn't tell if the OP was male or female, as that will alter the dynamics.

OP male: definitely run with the boss's boss. Only good things will happen if you're not an ass. I run with faster and slower folks in my weekend group run. Either I suck it up and run with the faster group, or I hang back and chat it up with the slower group. Both have benefits. For you just run, you could ask what he wants. All of us have plans for faster or slower days.

OP female: all of the above is probably true. But in today's world I'd happily run with a few folks of any gender from work, but I wouldn't run alone with a female subordinate.

[quote]stick man wrote:

A few things can happen -

1. you'll have someone to run with

Why on earth would you want that?!! Surely you run to escape having contact with any other human beings.

Think conversation is going wrong way..

What I have heard when golfing with any boss is play well but let them win and don't do anything stupid. For this run, I plan to run his pace (however slow or fast that is, I don't care) but let him dictate and in the end do what he wants. I don't care about training slower or faster or whatever. Just want to go for casual run and not get fired / do something stupid.

Looking for suggestions on how to proceed with actual run and what do during run itself. (Like hang one step off him so he guides / leads, push pace a little towards end)

NW Oregonian wrote:

but let him dictate and in the end do what he wants. )

Better slip some KY in the ol fanny pack.