WTFBBQ wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Anyone else fail a test after eating burgers? Millions of people including athletes eat burgers how come they are not failing tests
She's as clean as Contador.
Are we seriously going through this again?
There are LOTS of people who have tested positive for PEDs through contaminated meat. Look up the junior Pan Am Games a few years back.
Pure BS....They might have used the same excuse, but it's laughable....
Clenbuterol used to produce leaner or higher muscle-to-fat ratio in meat products. It has been banned in meat in the u.s. since 1991 and in the eu since 1996 because of health concerns including increased heart rate, muscular tremors, headache, nausea, fever and chills. In most cases these symptoms are reversible.1
I
n china:
The government banned the production, use and sale of Clenbuterol tablets on september 30, 2011, in order to improve food safety.2 The ban was announced shortly after the arrest of 989 people in
a crackdown triggered by incidents of Clenbuterol-tainted pork that sickened hundreds of people in march 2011.3
in mexico:
Here Clenbuterol has been banned in meat products for a number of years, the drug was found in the urine of 109 soccer players from multiple countries who were participating in the under-17 world soccer championship in June/ July 2011.
Clenbuterol is banned by the World anti-Doping agency, the International olympic Committee and other sporting organizations because of its muscle-building properties,5 but the athletes in the June incident as well as an earlier suspension of five mexican players blamed Clenbuterol-tainted beef for the findings.6
Over the next several months, government inspectors in mexico shut down 14 livestock markets where 99% of 6,421 meat samples tested positive for Clenbuterol.
in france:
Clenbuterol hit the headlines in september 2010 when spain’s cycling hero alberto Contador tested positive for the drug as he biked toward his third victory in the prestigious Tour
de France race and was suspended from cycling pending investigation. He blamed the problem on a steak that his chef purchased from spain. He was subsequently cleared by the spanish cycling federation but the case was appealed to the Court of arbitration for sport with a decision expected in the first few weeks of 2012.8
Contador’s defense was buttressed by a study by the German sports university Lab in Cologne finding that humans can inadvertently ingest Clenbuterol from meat.9
However, no traces of the drug were found in more than 19,000 animal samples tested in Spain between 2008 and 2009, and only one positive was found among 83,000 samples tested in the eu during the same period.10
back in china:
Concerns are now being raised that Clenbuterol contamination may not be limited to beef and pork. In october 2011, the government found that sheep feed in one province was found tainted with Clenbuterol.11
clenbuterol in meat wrote:
Clenbuterol used to produce leaner or higher muscle-to-fat ratio in meat products. It has been banned in meat in the u.s. since 1991 and in the eu since 1996 because of health concerns including increased heart rate, muscular tremors, headache, nausea, fever and chills. In most cases these symptoms are reversible.1
I
n china:
The government banned the production, use and sale of Clenbuterol tablets on september 30, 2011, in order to improve food safety.2 The ban was announced shortly after the arrest of 989 people in
a crackdown triggered by incidents of Clenbuterol-tainted pork that sickened hundreds of people in march 2011.3
in mexico:
Here Clenbuterol has been banned in meat products for a number of years, the drug was found in the urine of 109 soccer players from multiple countries who were participating in the under-17 world soccer championship in June/ July 2011.
Clenbuterol is banned by the World anti-Doping agency, the International olympic Committee and other sporting organizations because of its muscle-building properties,5 but the athletes in the June incident as well as an earlier suspension of five mexican players blamed Clenbuterol-tainted beef for the findings.6
Over the next several months, government inspectors in mexico shut down 14 livestock markets where 99% of 6,421 meat samples tested positive for Clenbuterol.
in france:
Clenbuterol hit the headlines in september 2010 when spain’s cycling hero alberto Contador tested positive for the drug as he biked toward his third victory in the prestigious Tour
de France race and was suspended from cycling pending investigation. He blamed the problem on a steak that his chef purchased from spain. He was subsequently cleared by the spanish cycling federation but the case was appealed to the Court of arbitration for sport with a decision expected in the first few weeks of 2012.8
Contador’s defense was buttressed by a study by the German sports university Lab in Cologne finding that humans can inadvertently ingest Clenbuterol from meat.9
However, no traces of the drug were found in more than 19,000 animal samples tested in Spain between 2008 and 2009, and only one positive was found among 83,000 samples tested in the eu during the same period.10
back in china:
Concerns are now being raised that Clenbuterol contamination may not be limited to beef and pork. In october 2011, the government found that sheep feed in one province was found tainted with Clenbuterol.11
http://www.sgs.com/~/media/Global/Documents/Technical%20Documents/Technical%20Bulletins/Scoop/sgs-cts-cc-food-clenbuterol-feb-2012-en-p4.pdf
There is no scientific evidence that Clenbuterol ingested in meat products has an anabolic or advantageous effect on Humans...
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
You'd think that Argentinians would fail drugs left, right and center. Their steaks are like an inch thick.
Probably not a good example, it assumes that Argentinians are actually tested. It is like assuming Jamaicans and Kenyons were being tested for steroids and epo.
Ajee should be banned, but the system is pretty broken all around. The incentive for catching your own athletes is low.
Yes, theoretically all non-vegan runners are dopers. The US meat supply is basically hormone hell, bad news is they are okay with increasing cancer rates. Yum.
Wilson has a few characteristics that make her vulnerable to a positive test:
A) she was actually tested multiple times
B) she is female
C) she is lower body fat than 99.9% of US women.
The location is very important.
Clenbuterol is not used in US cows. Zeranol is used in US cows.
After concluding that it was “highly unlikely that the presence of zeranol in Wilson’s sample resulted from a source other than zeranol contaminated meat,” USADA ruled that Wilson will not face a ban, but the 1:58.27 she ran in New York will not be ratified as the new American indoor record.
“USADA made it clear that we could not race until we settle[d] the issue,” said Wilson’s coach Derek Thompson. “She missed World Relays or another race or two. But they said until the matter was cleared up, they said we couldn’t race and we [weren’t] going to take that chance.”
After receiving news of the positive test in March, Thompson was shocked. “I didn’t have a clue what zeranol is and she didn’t have a clue what zeranol is [before the positive test], but hopefully it’s over with and we can move forward,” Thompson said.
Wilson’s lawyer reached out to Dr. Helmut Zarbl, a toxicology expert at Rutgers University. After quizzing Wilson on her meals before the race, Thompson said that Zarbl determined that the zeranol likely stemmed from some oxtails Wilson ate at a Jamaican restaurant the night before her race. Thompson said that Wilson also had some leftover oxtails for lunch on the day of her race.
Zeranol is used in US beef cattle. Zeranol is legal in the U.S. but banned in the European Union.
The Food Industry article showed that the EU has no clenbuterol in the meat supply, so eating contaminated cows is not a plausible explanation in Europe.
No traces of clenbuterol were found in more than 19,000 animal samples tested in Spain between 2008 and 2009, and only one positive was found among 83,000 samples tested in the EU during the same period.
Contador's 'eating contaminated cows in SPAIN' explanation failed and he was finally given a doping sanction.
In MEXICO, clenbuterol has been banned in meat products for a number of years, the drug was found in the urine of 109 soccer players from MULTIPLE countries who were participating in the under-17 world soccer championship in June/ July 2011.
Government inspectors in Mexico shut down 14 livestock markets where 99% of 6,421 MEAT SAMPLES TESTED POSITIVE FOR CLENBUTEROL.
Eating contaminated cows in Mexico is a very plausible explanation for a clenbuterol positive on a doping test with NO FAULT by the athlete. This is a very good reason to give a reduced ban.
For example:
February 2, 2017
USADA announced today that Fernando Cabada, of Lakewood, Colo., has tested positive for a prohibited substance, which was determined to have been ingested by him without fault or negligence.
Cabada, 34, tested positive for trace amounts of clenbuterol as the result of an out-of-competition urine sample he provided on December 6, 2016. Clenbuterol is an Anabolic Agent prohibited at all times under the USADA Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing, the United States Olympic Committee National Anti-Doping Policies, and the International Association of Athletics Federations, all of which have adopted the World Anti-Doping Code and the World Anti-Doping Agency Prohibited List.
Consistent with numerous prior reported cases globally, the issue of illicit administration of clenbuterol to animals destined for food production can result in, under specific conditions, a positive sample from an athlete. WADA has issued specific warnings about this problem in CHINA and MEXICO.
To USADA’s knowledge, positive tests resulting from meat contamination issues are RARE OUTSIDE OF THOSE TWO COUNTRIES. Moreover, due to strict regulatory and meat certification practices, USADA is not aware of any instances in which an athlete’s sample tested positive for clenbuterol after consumption of meat produced in the U.S.
During its investigation into the circumstances that led to the positive test, USADA gathered evidence from Cabada and reviewed Cabada’s whereabouts, dietary habits, and the laboratory reports demonstrating very low parts per billion concentrations of the prohibited substance in the athlete’s urine sample. USADA concluded that it was highly unlikely that the presence of clenbuterol in the athlete’s sample resulted from a source other than clenbuterol contaminated meat consumed in Mexico.
As a result, Cabada will not face a period of ineligibility for his positive test, and because the sample was collected out-of-competition, there are no competitive results to be disqualified.
https://www.usada.org/fernando-cabada-accepts-finding-of-no-fault/
It turned out that Alberto Contador (PROFESSSIONAL TDF CHAMPION CYCLIST FROM SPAIN) was CONTAMINATED with CLENBUTEROL... instead of the cow from SPAIN.
It is not a big surprise.
A winner of the Tour in 2007 and 2009, Alberto Contador becomes only the second cyclist to lose his title for doping, after American Floyd Landis tested positive for testosterone in 2006...(and then there was a third cyclist who lost 7 TDF titles.)
UCI president Pat McQuaid said of Contador on Feb. 6 2012: "This is a sad day for our sport. Some may think of it as a victory, but that is not at all the case."There are no winners when it comes to the issue of doping: every case, irrespective of its characteristics, is always a case too many."
Whoops.
Seven lines of blanks. From 1999 to 2005. There will be no Tour de France winner in the record book for those years.
Once the toast of the Champs-Elysees, Lance Armstrong was formally stripped of his seven Tour titles Monday and banned for life for doping. As far as the Tour is concerned, his victories never happened. He was never on the top step of the podium. The winner's yellow jersey was never on his back.
...and then on Oct. 23, 2012...
Pat McQuaid said he was "sickened" by some of the evidence detailed by USADA in its 200-page report and hundreds of pages of supporting testimony and documents.
"At the moment Lance Armstrong hasn't admitted to anything, yet all the evidence is there in this report that he doped," McQuaid said.
"Lance Armstrong has no place in cycling, and he deserves to be forgotten in cycling," said Pat McQuaid, president of the governing body. "Make no mistake, it's a catastrophe for him, and he has to face up to that."
REFC president Juan Carlos Castano said: "It's very bad news for Spanish sport. For us this journey has ended."
'Unjust, excessive and difficult to understand' is one of the headlines on the website of the Spanish Newspaper El Pais.
It sums up the general mood in the Spanish media.
And in the Barcelona-based La Vanguardia, they quote Perico Delgado, who won the Tour in 1988 as saying that 'they (the International Cycling Federation) are losing their focus in the fight against doping.'
Eddy Merckx said that Alberto Contador's ban was 'excessive.'
It is not a big surprise.
Dr.SkyRunner.Shiva.at11333ft.com wrote:
During its investigation into the circumstances that led to the positive test, USADA gathered evidence from Wilson, which included reviewing her dietary habits and food purchase receipts.
...
Dietary exposure from the use of zeranol-containing implants in cattle is usually insignificant.
That "investigation" would look much better if USADA would actually have analyzed the beef from Wilson's restaurant. As it stands now, the only argument is that she ate beef which may have been compromised. Lame.
So athletes are taking clenbuterol or zeranol because if they get caught they can simply claim it came from meat.....Makes sense...
Zeranol is a plausible explanation in US cows but clenbuterol is not a plausible explanation in US cows because clenbuterol is not used in US cows. Ajee Wilson had a level of zeranol measured at ppb and she had a negative test 1 week prior to the positive test. The American indoor record for 800m which she ran was not ratified because of the positive test.
Zeranol is not a plausible explanation for meat from Europe because zeranol is not used in cows in Europe.
Clenbuterol is not a plausible explanation for meat from Europe because clenbuterol is not used in cows from Europe.
Clenbuterol is a plausible explanation for meat from MEXICO or China.
Unfortunately for Chris Froome...the short-acting beta-2 adrenergic receptor agonist salbutamol (=albuterol=ventolin) is not used in cows from China, Mexico, USA, European Union, or Britain.
British Cycling and Team Sky is busy working on coming up with a plausible explanation for Mr. Froome:
“The most recent similar case was I think a year ban for a similar level. That would be probably my expectation of a starting point, unless his control test shows significantly different results than expected,” he said.
Italian rider Alessandro Petacchi was given a 12-month suspension and stripped of his five stage victories in the 2007 Giro d‘Italia for excessive Salbutamol use.
Team Sky said analysis of Froome’s urine sample showed a concentration of 2,000 nanograms per milliliter (ng/ml) of Salbutamol compared with the World Anti-Doping Agency threshold of 1,000ng/ml.
Team Sky also highlighted evidence of “significant and unpredictable variations” in the way Salbutamol is metabolized and excreted.
“A wide range of factors can affect the concentrations, including the interaction of Salbutamol with food or other medications, dehydration (sounds familiar) and the timing of Salbutamol usage before the test,” said the team.
The recommended maximum use of a standard inhaler is eight puffs over a 12 hour period. Bassindale said a similar reading to Froome’s would normally require well above that number.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/dec/13/chris-froome-team-sky-reputation-abnormal-drug-test
ha ha ha
ezby wrote:
Cassie Fien, an Australian marathon runner, got a ban for accidentally ingesting Higenamine in a contaminated product.
Why did Ajee Wilson not get at least a 9 month ban? Fien even found which product was contaminated that she ate as oppose to just some random bit of meat.
https://www.101sports.com/2018/02/07/australian-marathoner-accepts-9-months-doping-ban/American's need to realise they cheat as much as anyone else but for some reason are allowed to get away with it. I won't even start on Gil Roberts...
It is possible she was passionately kissing a cow that just had its nandralone injection.
Athlete warning: Higenamine in supplements
8 August 2017
In November 2016, ASADA published an athlete warning on the banned substance Higenamine, following a spike in the number of detections. Since then, six more Australian athletes have tested positive for Higenamine, bringing the total number of positives for that substance to 13 across nine different sports. So if you take supplements, your sporting career could be at risk too.
About Higenamine
Higenamine is a Beta-2 Agonist (these type of substances allow lungs to take in more oxygen) and is prohibited in- and out-of-competition. Today it is found in many popular supplements, including:
OxyShred
Alpha T2
PES Amphamine Advanced
as well as a number of other products.
It is often described as ‘natural’, and has also been listed as an ingredient on supplement labels as:
Nandina domestica
Demethylcoclaurine
Norcoclaurine
Tinospora crispa
Aconitum japonicum
Gnetum Parvifolium
Asarum hetertropoides
What can you do?
There are a number of things you can do to prevent a positive test.
1. Don’t take supplements.
All supplements are risky, and none can guarantee 100% that they do not contain prohibited substances. Supplements can be accidentally cross contaminated by other substances made in the same factory, or can contain prohibited substances deliberately included by the manufacturer to ensure users get results, while failing to list the ingredient on labels.
Before you take any supplements, seek the advice of your doctor or sports dietician about whether you really need them, or whether changes to your diet or training program could get better results instead. Many studies suggest there is little evidence that athletes need supplements given a well-balanced diet.
2. Choose a low-risk, tested supplement
If you choose to take supplements, despite the risk, consider using one which has been tested by an independent auditing company. Informed Sport and HASTA both offer testing before the product hits the shelf, and Informed Sport lists all tested products on their website. These do not give you a 100% guarantee, but are less risky than other non-tested supplements.
3. Check the ingredients
DO NOT take a supplement if you do not know the ingredients. You can check some ingredients on GlobalDro, but since ingredients can have more than 20 different names, not every version is listed. And, as above, not every ingredient is always listed.
4. Follow the AIS guidelines
The Australian Institute of Sport issues guidelines to help categorise supplements by risk and efficacy. Their matrix can help you decide whether it is worthwhile taking a supplement, and how to reduce your risk.
5. Educate yourself
Complete ASADA’s eLearning Level 1 Course, and stay up to date on new anti-doping issues with the Level 2 Course.
Importantly, because of the manufacturing processes, the contents of supplements can vary from batch-to-batch and may contain prohibited substances in sport regardless of what is listed in the label. As such, ASADA cannot give any specific supplements the all clear. ASADA does not endorse any supplements.
https://www.asada.gov.au/news/athlete-warning-higenamine-supplements
Fred Gwynne wrote:
If anybody has to the right to cheat it is Ajee. Have you seen the GIRLS she competes against?
Word.
Semenya and Niyonsaba have high levels of testosterone.
Estrogens are not a good choice as a veterinary drug to use for human doping as a performance-enhancing drug.
Zeranol would not be a good choice as a veterinary drug to use for human doping as a PED because it is an estrogen. It is also a weak estrogen. In comparison with estradiol, zeranol and the related myco-estrogens are 100-1000 times LESS ACTIVE hormonally.
(Ajee Wilson also had a level of zeranol in her urine that was measured at a level that was in parts per billion...and a negative test 1 week prior.)
In conclusion:
1) Ms. Ajee Wilson is the clean U.S. Record holder in the outdoor 800m. She ran a 1:55.61 with a negative doping test, and won the Bronze medal at the 2017 World Championships with a negative doping test.
2) Ms. Ajee Wilson is also a new World Record holder in the indoor 4 X 800m:
It is not a big surprise.
dsrunner wrote:
Yes, theoretically all non-vegan runners are dopers. The US meat supply is basically hormone hell, bad news is they are okay with increasing cancer rates. Yum.
Wilson has a few characteristics that make her vulnerable to a positive test:
A) she was actually tested multiple times
B) she is female
C) she is lower body fat than 99.9% of US women.
All the top athletes are tested multiple times
Being female has f all to do with it other than disproving you body fat theory as elite women have higher body fat than elite male athletes
99.9© of tested athletes?
America positive= innocent on Letsrun.
Here is the outdoor 800m World Record holder (in a time of 1:53.28 from 1983) for..........."women":
It turns out that... they just don't make girls like Jarmila in the year 2018.
Go Jarmila!!!
Jolanda Ceplak (1:55.19) could have easily dispatched the current wo-men.
USATF built a case FOR Wilson so one of their young stars isn't busted and embarrass them. Their excuse is highly improbable but not impossible. Now the entire Derek Thompson group can dope with impunity. If USATF protected them once, they will have to keep protecting them.
Ceplak = Doper from Slo-venia
Ms. Ajee Wilson is the fastest clean 800m female runner of all-time with normal female testosterone levels.
Unfortunately, Ms. Ajee Wilson is #39 on the all-time 800m list.
All of the names on the all-time list with faster times were either doping with anabolic steroids or women with hyperandrogenism.
Ms. Ajee Wilson should be awarded the 2017 World Championship 800m Gold Medal for women.
1 1:53.28 Jarmila Kratochvílová CZE 26.01.51 1 München 26.07.1983
2 1:53.43 Nadezhda Olizarenko UKR 28.11.53 1 Moskva 27.07.1980
3 1:54.01 Pamela Jelimo KEN 15.12.89 1 Zürich 29.08.2008
4 1:54.44 Ana Fidelia Quirot CUB 23.03.63 1 Barcelona 09.09.1989
5 1:54.68 Jarmila Kratochvílová CZE 26.01.51 1 Helsinki 09.08.1983
6 1:54.81 Olga Mineyeva RUS 01.09.52 2 Moskva 27.07.1980
7 1:54.82 Ana Fidelia Quirot CUB 23.03.63 1 Köln 24.08.1997
8 1:54.85 Nadezhda Olizarenko UKR 28.11.53 1rA Moskva 12.06.1980
9 1:54.87 Pamela Jelimo KEN 15.12.89 1 Beijing 18.08.2008
10 1:54.94 Tatyana Kazankina RUS 17.12.51 1 Montréal 26.07.1976
11 1:54.97 Pamela Jelimo KEN 15.12.89 1 Saint-Denis 18.07.2008
12 1:54.99 Pamela Jelimo KEN 15.12.89 1 Berlin 01.06.2008
13 1:55.04 Jarmila Kratochvílová CZE 26.01.51 1 Oslo 23.08.1983
14 1:55.05 Doina Melinte ROU 27.12.56 1 Bucuresti 01.08.1982
15 1:55.1 Olga Mineyeva RUS 01.09.52 1 Moskva 06.07.1980
16 1:55.16 Pamela Jelimo KEN 15.12.89 1 Bruxelles 05.09.2008
16 1:55.16 Caster Semenya RSA 07.01.91 1 London 13.08.2017
18 1:55.19 Maria Mutola MOZ 27.10.72 1 Zürich 17.08.1994
18 1:55.19 Jolanda Ceplak SLO 12.09.76 1rA Heusden-Zolder 20.07.2002
20 1:55.26 Sigrun Wodars GDR 07.11.65 1 Roma 31.08.1987
21 1:55.27 Caster Semenya RSA 07.01.91 1 Monaco 21.07.2017
22 1:55.28 Caster Semenya RSA 07.01.91 1 Rio de Janeiro 20.08.2016
23 1:55.29 Maria Mutola MOZ 27.10.72 2 Köln 24.08.1997
24 1:55.32 Christine Wachtel GER 06.01.65 2 Roma 31.08.1987
25 1:55.33 Caster Semenya RSA 07.01.91 1 Monaco 15.07.2016
26 1:55.41 Olga Mineyeva RUS 01.09.52 1 Athínai 08.09.1982
26 1:55.41 Pamela Jelimo KEN 15.12.89 1 Oslo 06.06.2008
28 1:55.42 Nikolina Shtereva BUL 21.01.55 2 Montréal 26.07.1976
29 1:55.43 Maria Mutola MOZ 27.10.72 1 Stuttgart 17.08.1993
30 1:55.45 Caster Semenya RSA 07.01.91 1 Berlin 19.08.2009
31 1:55.46 Tatyana Providokhina RUS 26.03.53 3 Moskva 27.07.1980
32 1:55.47 Francine Niyonsaba BDI 05.05.93 2 Monaco 21.07.2017
33 1:55.5 Olga Mineyeva RUS 01.09.52 1 Podolsk 21.08.1982
34 1:55.54 Ellen van Langen (ha ha ha) NED 09.02.66 1 Barcelona 03.08.1992
34 1:55.54 Liu Dong (ha ha ha) CHN 24.12.73 1 Beijing 09.09.1993
36 1:55.55 Maria Mutola MOZ 27.10.72 1 Madrid 19.07.2003
37 1:55.56 Lyubov Gurina RUS 06.08.57 3 Roma 31.08.1987
38 1:55.60 Elfi Zinn GDR 24.08.53 3 Montréal 26.07.1976
39 1:55.61 Ajee' Wilson USA 08.05.94 3 Monaco 21.07.2017
Because she said this
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
2017 World 800 champ Pierre-Ambroise Bosse banned 1 year for whereabouts failures
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