Katelyn Touhy- 15:37

Burnout wrote:

She ran 15:37 today to best Brie Oakley's national record. Obviously, she is incredibly talented, I just hope she can hold this momentum into college and beyond. Can she be a factor on the world stage in the next 6+ years (when she would theoretically finish college)???

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It is so easy to predict "burnout" for any HS phenom. Its old. Its unoriginal, and not interesting. Just stop it.

just stop it... wrote:

It is so easy to predict "burnout" for any HS phenom. Its old. Its unoriginal, and not interesting. Just stop it.

agreed

Even if she never improves, 15:37 as a HS SOPHOMORE GIRL is unreal and an amazing accomplishment. That's probably an age group world record too, which several US pros don't have in distance events.

Let her have her moment. She is amazing and her talent should be celebrated rather than throwing future expectations on her.

I don't think burnout is going to be the main issue. Her coach has made it clear that they're being very careful with mileage and keeping training fun while at the same time intense. I think the biggest question will be how well will she handle second puberty? If she gets it that is. I'd say about 50% of the girls on my high school team hit second puberty after their sophomore year and they end up peaking their sophomore year and don't get faster until college when training steps up big time. If she doesn't have an issue with 2nd puberty this upcoming year there is no predictor of where she will go because she is the GOAT of HS Underclass Distance Running.

[quote]cvoet55 wrote:

I don't think burnout is going to be the main issue. Her coach has made it clear that they're being very careful with mileage and keeping training fun while at the same time intense.

I believe the coach you referred to is her XC c oach not her track coach. Who knows how she trains for track.

just stop it... wrote:

Burnout wrote:

She ran 15:37 today to best Brie Oakley's national record. Obviously, she is incredibly talented, I just hope she can hold this momentum into college and beyond. Can she be a factor on the world stage in the next 6+ years (when she would theoretically finish college)???

Discuss

It is so easy to predict "burnout" for any HS phenom. Its old. Its unoriginal, and not interesting. Just stop it.

IF YOU RUN FAST AT A YOUNG AGE YOU WILL BURNOUT DUMMY HOW CAN U NOT KNOW THIS? ITS BASIC LETSRUNOMIGOTRY.

cvoet55 wrote:

I don't think burnout is going to be the main issue. Her coach has made it clear that they're being very careful with mileage and keeping training fun while at the same time intense. I think the biggest question will be how well will she handle second puberty? If she gets it that is. I'd say about 50% of the girls on my high school team hit second puberty after their sophomore year and they end up peaking their sophomore year and don't get faster until college when training steps up big time. If she doesn't have an issue with 2nd puberty this upcoming year there is no predictor of where she will go because she is the GOAT of HS Underclass Distance Running.

After this year, she'll be the GOAT of HS Girls Distance Running, period.

Article with splits (and age record claim).

4:54/9:54 are given. I would estimate she hit 3 miles in 15:05 or so, which would mean about 5:11 for the third mile.

She mentions that she went out a bit fast, while her coach talk about how even she ran.

http://www.milesplit.com/articles/231208-katelyn-tuohy-sets-15-year-olds-world-record-in-5k-with-153712

That is roughly equivalent to a 13:27 for a boy - a bit better than Rupp’s 13:37 - really great time her.

What kind of lifting does she do?

Sallly Vvv wrote:

That is roughly equivalent to a 13:27 for a boy - a bit better than Rupp’s 13:37 - really great time her.

Care to show your math? This isn't accurate.

Burnoutburnoutburnout wrote:

What kind of lifting does she do?

She runs a phenomenal race and has one of the best athletic performances ever by a HS athlete in any sport, and your initial reaction is "but does she even lift?"

bakers dozen wrote:

Article with splits (and age record claim).

4:54/9:54 are given. I would estimate she hit 3 miles in 15:05 or so, which would mean about 5:11 for the third mile.

She mentions that she went out a bit fast, while her coach talk about how even she ran.

http://www.milesplit.com/articles/231208-katelyn-tuohy-sets-15-year-olds-world-record-in-5k-with-153712

I gather the splits were for 1600/3200, not one mile and two mile.

That does even it out a bit. More like 4:56/5:02/5:07 for mile splits.

Sallly Vvv wrote:

That is roughly equivalent to a 13:27 for a boy - a bit better than Rupp’s 13:37 - really great time her.

Wrong, it's more like a 13:50-13:55 equivalent. Still absolutely stunning for a HS girls sophomore running solo indoors.

More like (14:11.9–13:56.7). ...13:27 are you high..?!

Burnoutburnoutburnout wrote:

What kind of lifting does she do?

Romanian deadlifts, Bulgarian half-squats, Haitian burpees, Salvadorean crunches.

She can run mid-15:20s in a pro race.

Now to see how she converts this strength to the mile/3K.

IAAF tables give it 1092 pts which is 13:33 for men, so move over Galen Rupp.

What I wonder is what does it take to get this girl excited? She runs one of the greatest performances in prep history and in the interview it's like she just washed the car and took the dog out for a walk.

YMMV wrote:

IAAF tables give it 1092 pts which is 13:33 for men, so move over Galen Rupp.

What I wonder is what does it take to get this girl excited? She runs one of the greatest performances in prep history and in the interview it's like she just washed the car and took the dog out for a walk.

What’s its equivalent for a male mile? She might be getting close to Webb’s level of legendary come spring