This is a great podcast on coaching. Marcus then talks about Webb later on and he mentions Webb having a 55 Hematocrit. That raised my eyebrow.
Is this a legit thing?
Is that 55 a red flag of doping?
Why are the Tour De France riders banned above 50?
What's the difference between running/cycling on hematocrit?
Alan Webb doping??? I don't think so...
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legit? wrote:
This is a great podcast on coaching. Marcus then talks about Webb later on and he mentions Webb having a 55 Hematocrit. That raised my eyebrow.
Is this a legit thing?
Don't know without more information.
legit? wrote:
Is that 55 a red flag of doping?
It depends what the athlete's baseline Hct is. If baseline is low 40s then 55 is definitely suspicious. However, a high 40s/low 50s it isn't - a few percentage points increase could be from altitude training, dehydration, etc. There are some athletes who have documented naturally high Hcts in the low 50s who aren't altitude natives.
legit? wrote:
Why are the Tour De France riders banned above 50?
In 1997 the UCI implemented the 50% upper Hct limit for safety reasons. Some riders were pushing dangerously high Hct levels into the 60s (polycythemia). In fact, some riders like Bjarne Riis even had a nickname for his high crit levels ("Mr. 60 percenter"). However, the upper 50% Hct level has since been replaced by the ABP, which tracts increases in Hct based on the athlete's individual baseline. Too high or consistently suspicious increases can result in a sanction for hematological anomalies.
legit? wrote:
What's the difference between running/cycling on hematocrit?
Nada...none.
It was not "Mr. 60 percenter". It was "Mr. 60"
Highly doubt Webb was at 55%.
Pretty much zero of the rules in the rulebook are going to apply to Alan. He is exceptional in every sense of the word.
55% is likely very doubtful, if he did, it sounds like doping.
His baseline OFF score would be 120-130, which would be a red flag.
for the recording wrote:
It was not "Mr. 60 percenter". It was "Mr. 60"
Highly doubt Webb was at 55%.
Big deal...it's actually "Mr. 60%" Like I'm sure he's going to be upset that he was referred to as "Mr. 60 percenter" as opposed to "Mr. 60%" ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjarne_RiisIf any of you listened to the podcast....
Marcus was recounting his conversation with Alan Webb about weight training and altitude training. He said that Alan's aerobic metabolism was so highly developed (saying he had a 55 hematocrit) that the altitude didn't really make a huge difference, so they did heavy weight training instead.
I also thought of Mr 60 percent when I heard this.
is this legit? wrote:
If any of you listened to the podcast....
Marcus was recounting his conversation with Alan Webb about weight training and altitude training. He said that Alan's aerobic metabolism was so highly developed (saying he had a 55 hematocrit) that the altitude didn't really make a huge difference, so they did heavy weight training instead.
A persistent hct of 55 is definitely not normal. A one time measurement after being extremely dehydrated would be feasible, however. If his hgb was at an analogous level (~18), then he's either a smoker, a Sherpa, has a kidney tumor, or
was dabbling in the good stuff.
What does his aerobic metabolism have to do with an extremely abnormal hematocrit level?
is this legit? wrote:
He said that Alan's aerobic metabolism was so highly developed (saying he had a 55 hematocrit) that the altitude didn't really make a huge difference, so they did heavy weight training instead.
legit? wrote:
Webb having a 55 Hematocrit. That raised my eyebrow.
Is this a legit thing?
Is that 55 a red flag of doping?
Why are the Tour De France riders banned above 50?
What's the difference between running/cycling on hematocrit?
Definitely doped if that's a correct value. If that's the case, I won't be surprised.
There is a Finnish family that has a genetic quirk for an extremely high hct.
Alan is not in that family.
the Viren family?
yeah sure boy wrote:
the Viren family?
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My hematocrit was once measured at 53 and I can barely break 5:00.
I sleep at 5400 feet, train as high as 9000 feet and I've only had one blood panel below 50 percent hematocrit since 2008. Was pretty glad to see it too. Highest reading so far has been 54.6. Generally I will test way higher when out of shape.
It has gotten to the point where I will beat the crap out of myself training in the month before the blood test just to try to come in below 50 percent. So far from Alan Webb's level that it's not even worth laughing about but at least I never lost prize money nor personal integrity over this specific medical value.
Blood Way Thicker Than Water wrote:
I sleep at 5400 feet, train as high as 9000 feet and I've only had one blood panel below 50 percent hematocrit since 2008. Was pretty glad to see it too. Highest reading so far has been 54.6. Generally I will test way higher when out of shape.
It has gotten to the point where I will beat the crap out of myself training in the month before the blood test just to try to come in below 50 percent. So far from Alan Webb's level that it's not even worth laughing about but at least I never lost prize money nor personal integrity over this specific medical value....
No worries.
Sincerely,
Ms. Paula Radcliffe
Ha ha ha
Go Paula!!!
Blood Way Thicker Than Water wrote:
I sleep at 5400 feet, train as high as 9000 feet and I've only had one blood panel below 50 percent hematocrit since 2008. Was pretty glad to see it too. Highest reading so far has been 54.6. Generally I will test way higher when out of shape.
It has gotten to the point where I will beat the crap out of myself training in the month before the blood test just to try to come in below 50 percent. So far from Alan Webb's level that it's not even worth laughing about but at least I never lost prize money nor personal integrity over this specific medical value.
Are you f-ing serious or are you a troll?