I second getting the Tesla Model 3. Worth the wait! I have a Model S and am eagerly awaiting the All wheel Drive Model 3 as a second Tesla. I do have a Honda Odyssey (helpful for trips with kids and in-laws) which is nice but it can’t compare to the Tesla.
Ignorant American wrote:
Most "foreign cars" in America are made by non union labor while UAW clings to life. It's so nice you mooched off your parents for over a decade. Any self respecting man buys a car by mid 20s.
Nah. I bought property instead. I'm much wealthier for not buying and souping up a bunch of cars.
The Forgotten Manchild in the Promised Land wrote:
Ignorant American wrote:
Most "foreign cars" in America are made by non union labor while UAW clings to life. It's so nice you mooched off your parents for over a decade. Any self respecting man buys a car by mid 20s.
Nah. I bought property instead. I'm much wealthier for not buying and souping up a bunch of cars.
You mean your parents' money bought you property.
Honda is good, reliable value for the dollar. America needs more Hondas and less patriotic crap.
The Forgotten Manchild in the Promised Land wrote:
Thanks, man. That's really helpful. I realize that America does trucks and other "power" vehicles well. Where I live, big city, lots of traffic, tight streets, that kind of car simply isn't efficient. I appreciate the suggestions for an American-made coupe.
Like I said, I'm not a car guy. I just want a good Christian American car-- I'm flexible on whether it's a proper coupe or not-- that supports our American workers instead of just any old border-hopping, ER-filling, ESL-talking thing on four wheels.
Yea, a fuel efficient sedan or hatchback of any sort that isn't gigantic probably would work for you. And you're starting to sound like a troll.
Direct Guy wrote:
I’m going to be honest here: it doesn’t sound like you actually have a good reason for wanting to buy “American”. As someone already pointed out, some “American” cars are largely built overseas, while some “foreign” cars are built and assembled here in the US. Just get a good car, don’t mindlessly buy into the “buy American” marketing crap. The very fact that “buy American” is a thing is a reflection of the fact that for many years, American cars have struggled to sell themselves on their own merits.
Yes, American cars have been failing to sell themselves for some time. The advantage American dealers have is stuffing them with all kinds of features and then offering deep discounts, so you theoretically can get more for your money.
But like I said, just a Chevy Volt or Bolt. If you want something that is overall a nicer car but less fuel efficient, look at the Malibu or the Impala, or one of the Buicks I mentioned (but not the Verano because that's just a dressed up Chevy Cruze). An AWD Buick Regal seems like it could be a lot of fun, but not fuel efficient.
Nobody should buy from the Chrysler-Fiat family until they improve reliability and Ford just doesn't seem like they are trying right now beside rolling out pick-ups and another SUV model. Ford's car line-up looks like it's from 5 years ago.
Daddy's Money wrote:
The Forgotten Manchild in the Promised Land wrote:
Nah. I bought property instead. I'm much wealthier for not buying and souping up a bunch of cars.
You mean your parents' money bought you property.
No. I didn't use a cent of anyone else's money. I worked at Salesforce for a while before finishing my PhD. I'm a professor at a private R1 university and do consulting work as well. Try to succeed in life, like our great leader Trump, instead of revoking the successful like some Bernie Sanders Commie.
But enough about me: Let's talk America, cars, and greatness.
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Yea, a fuel efficient sedan or hatchback of any sort that isn't gigantic probably would work for you. And you're starting to sound like a troll.
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Well, my question was an earnest one, and I sincerely thank you for the wealth of info on the topic. Like I said, I know nothing about the car market. I've spent my time doing things that don't involve the phrase "under the hood." So this was really helpful.
Obviously, I'm less than serious in some of my adjectival inanities and Trumpian rhetoric, but you have kind of confirmed for me the ishhole state of American coupe manufacturing.
But I will definitely look into the Volt or Bolt, as well as this whole Honda-in-Ohio gambit that I was also totally unaware of.
The Forgotten Manchild in the Promised Land wrote:
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Yea, a fuel efficient sedan or hatchback of any sort that isn't gigantic probably would work for you. And you're starting to sound like a troll.
Well, my question was an earnest one, and I sincerely thank you for the wealth of info on the topic. Like I said, I know nothing about the car market. I've spent my time doing things that don't involve the phrase "under the hood." So this was really helpful.
Obviously, I'm less than serious in some of my adjectival inanities and Trumpian rhetoric, but you have kind of confirmed for me the ishhole state of American coupe manufacturing.
But I will definitely look into the Volt or Bolt, as well as this whole Honda-in-Ohio gambit that I was also totally unaware of.
I didn't care much for the car market until my 1998 kicked the bucket last year and I had to buy something new. I researched basically the whole market and learned quite a bit.
I am partial to GM vehicles because my family owns a few and I have rented or test driven many models. I think they do a better job with interior/exterior design and overall driveability compared to Ford's offerings. They looked better and had better reliability ratings that Ford models in my price range.
Truth is, if you want a fuel efficient and reliable car, you are better off looking at the Japanese or Korean automakers. American automakers seemed to give up on the sedan/hatchback/coupe segment back in the 90s.
What is a ‘Christian American’ car? Is that different than a Buddhist-American or Hindu American car? Do Jewish people buy ‘Jewish’ Cars?
Your a phd and too stoopid to do you're own research and by a car you lick?
Thats incredulous!!
Dummy with nice cars..... wrote:
Your a phd and too stoopid to do you're own research and by a car you lick?
Thats incredulous!!
Best way to start any research project: Ask the gen. pop. Then narrow it down from there.
Lots and lots of non-"big 3" vehicles made in the USA. Only traditional domestic I would consider is Ford. Fiat/Chrysler? You gotta be a real dunce to buy into that brand. Chevy? One looks at their current "real people" campaign should tell you all you need to know about their crappy snowflake products.
BMWs and soon Volvos made in the states. Hondas, many others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobiles_manufactured_in_the_United_States
Buick Cascada
American cars are garbage.
Japan an Germany all the time.
Afford a Ford? wrote:Ford Mustang GT
+1
-Assembled in America by an American company
-Not a Honda
-2 seats
-4 doors
-V8 + Manual + RWD, as God intended.
-Fuel economy is...not completely terrible
The Mexican wrote:
American cars are garbage.
Japan an Germany all the time.
You guys lost the war, Mexican. Eat sh!t. Buy American.
buy a mazda 3 and then donate the extra $15k to the FREEDOM! cause of your choice if it makes you feel better.
lklklklk wrote:
buy a mazda 3 and then donate the extra $15k to the FREEDOM! cause of your choice if it makes you feel better.
Be careful what you let me wish for.
Have you considered the Lithium Motor Car Company? They have several models.
The Hybridmicrocar it their extensive lineup fits your requirements:
*American (built in Arizona)
*Simple (no 'under-the-hood' required)
*Remember the forgotten man (remember seeing one of these?)
*Advanced technology (not a hybrid but a TRIBRID)
*Ultra-fuel efficient (due to light-weight styling)
*Attractive appearance (beauty is in the eye of the beholder)
*Easily maneuverable (compact size)
*Sporty (7-speed shifter)
*Low cost (purchase and maintain)
*2-Door (what doors)
If you buy a Honda, you are probably buying American because most Hondas sold in the US are actually made in the US. For that matter, you can also buy Toyotas, BMW, Mercedes, and other "foreign" cars made in the US.
Plenty of "American" cars by GM, Ford, or Jeep/Chrysler are actually made in Mexico or Canada, China (Buick Envision), Italy, or have a substantial percentage of foreign-made parts. Jeep/Chrysler (FCA) is actually an Italian company, so if you buy a Jeep Wrangler, the car is made in Toledo, Ohio, but the real company headquarters is in Turin, Italy. If you buy a Jeep Renegade, it's actually built in Italy despite all of the Jeep heritage marketing and imagery.
So you really need to define what you mean by "American" because the term is very ambiguous. Do you mean 100% from an American factory? Sold by an American-headquartered company? Sold by the American subsidiary of a foreign company (FCA)?
Also, when you look at percentage of "American" content, "American" also includes "Canadian" because cross-border manufacturing was so integrated with the former Big 3.
It's a big can of worms.
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