Ladybird (the movie) is an Insult to Human Intelligence

Dill Pickles, man, it is all about the mighty Dill.

I thought Lady Bird was better than Antz but not as good as A Bug's Life.

I thought it was stupid, but Greta Gerwig is the new Lena Dunham.

Hollywood is dead. In the last 10 years, I can count on 1 hand the number of moves that weren't a waste of time to watch.

celery wrote:

Hollywood is dead. In the last 10 years, I can count on 1 hand the number of moves that weren't a waste of time to watch.

So list them then you lazy turd.

How ironic that you brand something you're not bright enough to get as "an Insult to Human Intelligence".

Buglover wrote:

I thought Lady Bird was better than Antz but not as good as A Bug's Life.

Only plebs liked a bugs life better than antz

This is false and you are ridiculously misguided.

Greta as an artist is world’s ahead of Lena in terms of her approach to structure and character. It may not gave been a groundbreaking film, but an authentic and impeccably crafted one nonetheless.

As for the poster who said Hollywood has produced nothing watchable in the last 10 years, you are definitely the type of dude that says “Tarantino is the best director ever and the Dark Knight is my favorite movie”

celery wrote:

Hollywood is dead. In the last 10 years, I can count on 1 hand the number of moves that weren't a waste of time to watch.

Yeah, let’s go back to the good old days when no women or minorities were starring in these damn pictures!! Birth of A Nation and Gone With the Wind!!!!! Bring back the McCarthy era!!!

You guys are insufferable. Go out and make a better film if you are so unhappy, and see for yourself how you do. Then tell me how bad Lady Bird is. You may not have liked the film, that doesn’t mean the film was bad.

Nature documentaries bore me especially about bugs. The only good ones have big powerful animals like lions fighting.

OldHollywood! wrote:

Yeah, let’s go back to the good old days when no women or minorities were starring in these damn pictures!! Birth of A Nation and Gone With the Wind!!!!!

Very few people who criticize "Birth of a Nation" seem to have actually seen it, and few seem to know much about it, so that part of your comment doesn't really surprise me, but I would have expected most critics of "Gone With the Wind" to have seen that movie at some point in their lives.

Both films starred women -- Lillian Gish in BOAN, and Vivien Leigh in GWTW. In BOAN, several of the most prominent co-stars, including Mae Marsh and Miriam Cooper, were women. In GWTW, most of the important supporting roles were played by women, including Olivia DeHavilland, one of the most popular movie stars in the world at the time, and Hattie McDaniel was the first African-American, male or female, to win an Academy Award for acting, being out De Havilland herself for the award of best supporting actress. (Of course, GWTW was based on and adapted from Margaret Mitchell's novel, which, outside the Bible, is still the work of fiction most often cited by American adult women as their favorite book. )

For some real entertainment from the Johnson administration, search the audio of LBJ ordering 6 pairs of pants from the Haggar Company in 1964. It is utterly hilarious.

Lady-Bird is a virtually perfect movie, the best of the year. Hi there, Philistines!

LBJ was such a slob. I don't know how Ladybird put up with him.

OldHollywood! wrote:

celery wrote:

Hollywood is dead. In the last 10 years, I can count on 1 hand the number of moves that weren't a waste of time to watch.

Yeah, let’s go back to the good old days when no women or minorities were starring in these damn pictures!! Birth of A Nation and Gone With the Wind!!!!! Bring back the McCarthy era!!!

You guys are insufferable. Go out and make a better film if you are so unhappy, and see for yourself how you do. Then tell me how bad Lady Bird is. You may not have liked the film, that doesn’t mean the film was bad.

I said the last 10 years, not the last 60. I'm not a film maker so why should I go out and make a movie? And I didn't say how bad Lady Bird was, I implied that I have no interest in watching the movie, or any movie made today. They're pretty much all a waste of time. Hollywood is dead.

I did really enjoy Dale and Tucker vs Evil. Was that made in the last 10 years?

The fact that you just defensed two of the most racist films in the history of cinema explains a lot. Hattie McDaniel also openly lamented the film. So, yeah you are wrong or racist or both

HSJahabba wrote:

The fact that you just defensed two of the most racist films in the history of cinema explains a lot. Hattie McDaniel also openly lamented the film. So, yeah you are wrong or racist or both

I "defensed" the films? What are you -- a high school football coach?

Of course, I didn't defend either film, except insofar as I correctly pointed out that the stars and many of the supporting actors were women, one of the supporting actresses was an African-American woman who won an Academy Award for her performance, and the novel upon which GWTW was based was written by a woman and remains the favorite novel of a plurality of American woman. It's odd to me that the poster to whom I was responding didn't seem to be aware of any of that, but it's also quite possible that the poster just didn't fully think through the comment before posting it. The poster also made what I found to be a rather bizarre comment about the McCarthy era; perhaps it was meant as a suggestion that women and members of certain minority groups were effectively blackballed based on race or gender, much as actors and screenwriters were blackballed based on accusations of Communist affiliations made during hearings of the House Un-American Activities Committee, though that seems to miss the real historical significance of McCarthy's actions and Hollywood's response. In any event, there was no need for me to discuss any of that.

As to whether either film is racist: I recognize that many people, most (but by no means all) of whom are almost totally ignorant of the film, have unhesitatingly labeled BOAN a racist film, and quite a number of people have objected to perceived racial stereotypes in GWTW (and maybe also have objected to its sympathetic depiction of at least some white southerners during the Civil War while perhaps inappropriately suggesting that U.S. troops may have been too harsh in their treatment of the south). I don't find the "racist" label to be analytically helpful; it's usually little more than an epithet, so I tend to avoid it in careful discussions about anything other than the meaning of the word "racist," which is itself a difficult subject. But I do believe that there are good arguments for criticizing both films for their express or implied viewpoints about matters of race, and for their suggestions that historical events or social conditions relating to race were accurately depicted in the films. Of course, I also believe that BOAN was one of the most important landmarks in the development of feature-length films, and had moments of great technical virtuosity, but that shouldn't be a matter of serious dispute; the more usual disagreement seems to be about whether the film is so odious that discussions about those aspects of the film should be categorically out of bounds. GWTW seems to occupy a much different position in the world; many people apparently still love it, and I'm not aware that there is a big movement, much less a consensus, to marginalize those who express their love or admiration for it. (Personally, I never much cared for it; I didn't like Scarlett or Rhett, and the whole production seemed bloated.)

I haven't seen "Lady Bird," but people whose cinematic taste I respect have seen it and liked it, and I suspect that I will as well.

@AvocadoDouche

Bruh, you’re a racist. Every African American character in Birth of a Nation wore black face. And Gone With The Wind tried to re-write the history of reconstruction by suggesting that slaves wanted to remain loyal to their masters. There isn’t a single African american character in either film with a hint of realism or humanity

please just leave your racist a$$ comments off the boards trying to act like the “technical achievements” of these films make it okay to reinforce opression on an entire race of people