not the marathon wrote:
I'm a junior in high school and have a few goals for track season this year. I ran 2:08 last year in a 4x8 relay and think I can run a sub 2 minute 800 since that wasn't my main event last year. That is if I decide to focus on it over the mile this year. My 5k dropped significantly during xc this year. Is there any sure sign of being able to run sub 2 minutes. Any general advice for doing it other than running fast and lydiard because that almost always seems to be the first response on any thread.
Any advice and help is appreciated
We do not know your situation and neither do you. How do you know your coach will let you run the open 800? He might see you as being a miler or 2 miler. I would sit down with your coach and ask him to advise you. Ask him some questions. What do you see as my role? What should I be doing to prepare for track & field? Why should I train that way? (The WHY of anything is important!)
*Too often we see "one season wonders," who do not run during the off-season. They run 2:05 as juniors and then come back as seniors and expect to better that off the coaches workouts during the spring. Many may actually get worse or stay the same as in 2:07-2:04 as seniors.
Lydiard trained most of his runners with marathon training but he had them for several years time.
However his principles apply to all distance runners.
You say you are a junior. Your peak as an athlete will be determined by your aerobic capacity. However in the short term speed endurance is the way to go.
(For you this might mean running 2:05 or so as a junior and with luck 2:02 or so as a senior if you do not run lots of miles. Lydiard style training might enable 2:03 this year and 1:56 next year. But you have to be very intelligent and mix the training well. Lydiard was not all about Just-Running-Mileage as many believe. He believed in periodization and balanced training.)
Joe Newton said that it's like building a pyramid. If you have a wide base you can build a higher peak.
But variety is important.
All young runners will improve. How much they improve depends on how consistently they train, how hard they train, and how intelligent the training is over a long period of time. If you have stamina it will always be there for you. Speed endurance is the most important work, but put it in at the right time and in the right doses (intensities).
*Good race strategy is also a very important element and is lacking in many programs. Without it all of the above is nonsense.