Katelyn Tuohy 9:05 3k US#2 ALL TIME

would compete well at NCAAs this year wrote:

She compares well to some former and current NCAA champs.

Here are their 3K PRs (all run in College):

Allie Ostrander: 8:54.27

Molly Seidel: 8:57.13 (she won 3K NCAAs in 8:57.86)

Karissa Schweitzer: 9:06.60

Anna Rohrer: 9:11.14

Rohrer is a great runner, but I don't think she is an NCAA champ yet at any distance - but still good info to put Tuohy's run in perspective. Yes, it would be fun to see Tuohy run with top college girls in some sort of invitational.

Just FYI

Schweizer and Kurgat closed in 9:03 and 9:04 in their indoor 5Ks after NCAA xc.

rohrer a champ? wrote:

would compete well at NCAAs this year wrote:

She compares well to some former and current NCAA champs.

Here are their 3K PRs (all run in College):

Allie Ostrander: 8:54.27

Molly Seidel: 8:57.13 (she won 3K NCAAs in 8:57.86)

Karissa Schweitzer: 9:06.60

Anna Rohrer: 9:11.14

Rohrer is a great runner, but I don't think she is an NCAA champ yet at any distance - but still good info to put Tuohy's run in perspective. Yes, it would be fun to see Tuohy run with top college girls in some sort of invitational.

That was a crazy fast 3K for Tuohy today, especially for Jan 6th. I hope she leaves something in the tank for the big meets later this indoor and outdoor season!

More 3K PRs for perspective (but they had a few obstacles to overcome):

Emma Coburn: 9:02.58

Courtney Frerichs: 9:03.77

Pain cain train wrote:

Cain ran the last 218 meters in 34?

Correct

adflkjasdhjha;lkhdha;d wrote:

Good comparisons to current/recent NCAA champs, though I don't think Rohrer is an NCAA champ (yet!)

If my memory serves, Allie O ran that amazing 8:54.27 indoors at UW as a true frosh . I'm pretty sure Allie O had the inside lane much more than KT did today. I suspect KT would have broke 9:00 today in a fast race against top college talent where she could have spent more time in lane 1. What a fantastic effort - and in response to someone above, from the video it does indeed look like she split the first 1600 in 4:45.

Agreed on all counts. Quality post.

I hope she goes after 9:00 later this winter. Maybe at one of the BU meets?

I think Zola Budd's 8:28.83 (19 years old) is still the teenage 3K record? However, that was outdoors. Not sure if Zola Budd did much indoor track.

Deadstream wrote:

GBohannon wrote:

Efraimson ran 9:00 and Cain ran 9:02, so Tuohy is #3.

#2 All Time indoor.

#4 All Time absolute.

She's not #2 or #4 all time.

She's US HIGH SCHOOL #2 or #4 all time.

Please separate all time from high school. Irresponsible not to.

From TullyRunners: Note (Jan 6)... Katelyn Tuohy (North Rockland) sets National Sophomore 3000m Record at Ocean Breeze Freedom Games (9:05.26) making her the 3rd fastest All-Time at that Indoor distance [behind Mary Cain (9:02.10 - over-size track & 9:04.51) and Alexa Efraimson (9:00.16 - over-size track]

Why does she have a bunch of safety pins pinned to her shorts and singlet?

GBohannon wrote:

adflkjasdhjha;lkhdha;d wrote:

Good comparisons to current/recent NCAA champs, though I don't think Rohrer is an NCAA champ (yet!)

If my memory serves, Allie O ran that amazing 8:54.27 indoors at UW as a true frosh . I'm pretty sure Allie O had the inside lane much more than KT did today. I suspect KT would have broke 9:00 today in a fast race against top college talent where she could have spent more time in lane 1. What a fantastic effort - and in response to someone above, from the video it does indeed look like she split the first 1600 in 4:45.

Agreed on all counts. Quality post.

I hope she goes after 9:00 later this winter. Maybe at one of the BU meets?

Just saw the the vid of Tuohy's race today. That was VERY impressive. Can Claudia Lane handle that? I'm from CA so I've followed Lane a bit more and am probably a bit biased. Indeed, I've argued on these boards that Lane's FL win was more impressive than Tuohy's NXN win - but honestly, I don't think Lane could have hung with her today. I think Lane's 3200 PR is 9:57 (outdoors) which does NOT translate to a 9:05 3K indoors. Nevertheless, I hope to see these two ladies bring their 'A' games to the same race, on the same day this year.

Tuohy has thinned out a lot since last year. It looks like she gained muscle but lost a decent amount of body fat. Not sure thats what a high school sophomore should be doing. Her uniform bottoms fit last year and don't this year. But, when you up mileage, do crazy hard workouts, swim for cross training and lift, your not giving your body enough to mature and do what it needs to do so you can have a long career. Welcome to NYS. BE fast now, why wait. Blame college coach when they don't get faster. Repeat with next new runner.

This time last year Laura Muir ran 8:26 and she is way off the top East Africans.

She is very lean, indeed, but likely has much higher testosterone levels than most girls too so it might not be that difficult for her. She looks a lot more athletic than Cain or Efraimson did at the same age.

ny now or never wrote:

Tuohy has thinned out a lot since last year. It looks like she gained muscle but lost a decent amount of body fat. Not sure thats what a high school sophomore should be doing. Her uniform bottoms fit last year and don't this year. But, when you up mileage, do crazy hard workouts, swim for cross training and lift, your not giving your body enough to mature and do what it needs to do so you can have a long career. Welcome to NYS. BE fast now, why wait. Blame college coach when they don't get faster. Repeat with next new runner.

Efraimson was very athletic and athletic looking. Efraimson always looked healthy. At this point, touhy would struggle to be an athlete in another sport. She is frail. She is fast. She looks similar to Allie Ostrander as a freshman in college - remember that was the first year Allie ran full time. She had to take a full year off to let her body recover and get healthy. Ride the wave now, but the adults in her life she be making better decisions for her.

similar wrote:

At this point, touhy would struggle to be an athlete in another sport. She is frail. She is fast. She looks similar to Allie Ostrander as a freshman in college - remember that was the first year Allie ran full time.

Are we looking at the same girl? Because no, absolutely do not agree with you.

Tuohy looks far more muscular than most HS girls her age, especially for a cross country runner. Allie Ostrander looked like another Ashley Brasovan: short, skinny, frail.

Tuohy at NXN looked far stronger, did you see her shoulders and her arms? She looks very, very strong.

If this isn't athletic looking for a distance runner I'd like to see what others think would fit the bill. In my opinion, she looks like an international class runner that could have opted to be a gymnast if she wanted to.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMbceylVoAAybjo.jpg

There was a great quote by Shalane Flanagen a few years ago that told high school kids, don't try to look like I look now at 30, look what I looked like in high school and college. Thats how you will make it in this sport. Look at simpson in hs and college. Interesting the ones who make it.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

This time last year Laura Muir ran 8:26 and she is way off the top East Africans.

Yeah she is so far off that she only got a near-miss in the 1500 for a medal and came back in the 5000 to dawdle her way to 6th. Age 24. So far off...

And what Tuohy has to do with Muir is beyond rational comprehension, unless maybe you mean that white girls must always lose to black ones? Ms Flanagan has something to say on that topic...

Physically, Tuohy is a dead ringer for Hasay.

Enough said about that.