red glare wrote:
I'll just add for the OP: I have enjoyed many posts from LoneStarXC for a while now and as a woman also appreciate a bright, sharp young woman on here. However, from the two recent threads she's started it's sad to see she's slipped into trolldom, with diminishing original thought. You're better than this.
That's all fine and dandy, except that she started this thread over a year ago....
red glare wrote:
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Wouldn't any college without a program (of which there is a ton) be the worst for running?
Pretty much. This is a dumb thread topic, so no wonder it's so popular with the bitter, insecure trolls. People are judging based on incredibly superficial criteria. Some schools don't pay their coaches more than a stipend, some schools have little to no travel budget, some schools don't have diverse courses of study and thus don't have diverse student bodies, some schools emphasize academics far above athletics, some schools don't have athletic scholarships for recruiting. If you don't have a school that appeals to much of a talent pool then you won't get recruits that can be coached much further than they got in high school. This is just another version of the pathetic, gutless, anonymous coach bashing thread that gets recycled all too often on here. No coach wants to see their athletes get injured or fail to progress.
Even these bottom of the barrel teams would likely beat the best 7 runners at any college without a program. They'd be like middle of the pack teams in nirca.
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
red glare wrote:
I'll just add for the OP: I have enjoyed many posts from LoneStarXC for a while now and as a woman also appreciate a bright, sharp young woman on here. However, from the two recent threads she's started it's sad to see she's slipped into trolldom, with diminishing original thought. You're better than this.
That's all fine and dandy, except that she started this thread over a year ago....
Yeah, this is an old thread. At the time I started it, there was a “Worst D1 running school” thread (linked below) that was fairly popular, so I believe I started this one to bring D2, D3, and NAIA into the mix.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8508832My mistake on the timing, I didn't look at dates and only saw it after it had been bumped. The comment on tone stands.
red glare wrote:
My mistake on the timing, I didn't look at dates and only saw it after it had been bumped. The comment on tone stands.
No one can be smart all the time I guess. ?♀️
Certainly not posting so much here.
Best on your upcoming track szn! ✌️
red glare wrote:
Certainly not posting so much here.
Best on your upcoming track szn! ✌️
Thanks, RG. You’ll see less of me once the track season and the semester get into full swing.
Emerson College in Boston only has XC and they practice only twice a week during the coach's lunch hour from wherever he works and they only practice in the Boston Common. Both practices are hill workout circuits repeats. Long hills for one, and short for the other. Everyone together and no target times. They do no other training.
There are a couple of other colleges in the area rumored to have practice just once or twice per week but I can not confirm that to be true.
Throwing my hat into the ring wrote:
Brigham Young Univ. in Utah Valley. Stuck in concrete suburbia with no access to flat running trails, terrible retention and 4 yr graduation due to mission factor, frequent marriages among teammates, relies on Utah primarily to recruit, no appeal to minorities or LGBTQ+, always peaks too early
and...no coffee, alcohol, pre-marital sex,. Eyestone makes them dress up for travel, mandatory book of Mormon classes, endless harassment by campus missionaries, no beards.
The student dining experience is crap.
Those are all things that make it a great place for running.
Rosemount college in Philly- school record in 19:15
and Goucher College in Maryland best guys is like 30 min 5k
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3 guys running 55:00+ for an 8K! Superficial?
USC, based on its crappy location.
BYU fer Sher. It's like a high school all Star team. Nobody ever gets any better either.
USC has the best slam,-bait
Indiana has to be the absolute worst. Absolute suckola in every way. I don't even think they can spell 5K let alone xc.
truth hurts wrote:
A well known school where they really don't care about you, its a meat grinder of a program that burns through bodies by doing brutally high mileage. If you get injured, oh well, there is always somebody to take your place.
NC State?
Not specifically the "Worst Overall" but these are the top 10 universities by enrollment and how well their running programs do:
"Top 10 largest colleges by on-campus enrollment:
1.) University of Central Florida: Women were 5th in the AAC last year, 18th in the South region. No men's team
2.) Texas A&M University: Women are currently 6th in South Central region rankings right now, Men are 3rd.
3.) Ohio State University: Women are currently 6th in Great Lakes region, Men are unranked.
4.) Florida International University: Both currently unranked in the South region. Women were last in C-USA and only ran 4 at the South region. Men were also last in the C-USA last year and only had 3 runners at the South regional.
5.) University of Florida: Women are currently ranked 12th in the South region, men are unranked.
6.) Arizona State University: Women are currently ranked 9th in the West region, men are unranked.
7.) University of Minnesota: Women are currently ranked 1st in the Midwest region and 19th in the nation, men are ranked 2nd in the Midwest region and 18th in the nation.
8.) University of Texas (at Austin): Women are currently ranked 5th in the South Central region, men are ranked 1st in the South Central and 24th in the nation.
9.) Michigan State Univeristy: Women are currently ranked 3rd in the Great Lakes region and 20th in the nation, men are ranked 2nd in the Great Lakes and 15th in the nation.
10.) Indiana University: Women are currently ranked 5th in the Great Lakes region and 29th in the nation, men are ranked 6th in the Great Lakes."
(this was something I did a year (or two?) ago on another post, so data is outdated, but still)
LoneStarXC said: Worst college OVERALL for running
pretty much any overall is bad for running. shorts and a singlet is preferred for a reason.
LoneStarXC wrote:
Since there’s a lot of worst d1 schools for running threads, I thought I’d make one for the worst colleges overall (d1-d3) for running. ?
Discus.
UT Dallas has the worst coach ever. Like the coach emphasizes high mileage with terrible recovery times and most of the runners constantly get injured and there are 3-5 guys that run in the 19-20s for a 5k. Everyone keeps injured often and the coach does nothing about it. My high school team would embarrass this washed up college team.
Two in California that I can think of and both are D1. Sac State and University of the Pacific. I am not sure how both are so bad.