[quote]Recoachtrker wrote:
Gatlin/Mitchell fully know how to avoid positive tests from microdosing, undectable new drugs, traveling outside US for “training” & “medical treatment” to avoid testing altogether during heavy doping.[...Where there's smoke there's fire. /quote]
Hey, if all you need to end someone's career, despite endless testing, is a little smoke, why test at all? Just set up smoke detectors at all the tracks and you'll be done.
Not sure if this was already posted.
ggilder wrote:
[quote]Recoachtrker wrote:
Gatlin/Mitchell fully know how to avoid positive tests from microdosing, undectable new drugs, traveling outside US for “training” & “medical treatment” to avoid testing altogether during heavy doping.[...Where there's smoke there's fire. /quote]
Hey, if all you need to end someone's career, despite endless testing, is a little smoke, why test at all? Just set up smoke detectors at all the tracks and you'll be done.
A little smoke? Are you freaking kidding me? The Thomas Fire has less smoke than Gatlin. I can’t believe people can actually defend this guy.
Shame Game wrote:
The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.
When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.
Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.
Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.
Recoachtrker wrote:
All this sanctimonius defense of Gatlin makes me want to throw up. It’s not just this story. A year ago he is photographed at practice track in Florida with one of history’s worst doping dealers Carlos Memo Hereria who was with Gatlin in México back in 05 weeks before he was popped. You lie about your doping offense & it should be life ban. He lied about that whole deal. Gatlin comes off ban & after year of trying it clean & not breaking 10 he CHOOSES to be coached by Dennis Mitchell who was busted himself as was his wife during Balco. Other athletes Mitchell has trained tested positive during career. Not one coach in elite sprinting thinks Mitchell & Gatlin are clean. So those defending Gatlin please tell me you have evidence to refute the facts I just laid out. He deserves no protection or be given the benefit of the doubt.
Practically everything in your statement is incorrect. (1) The purpose of Hereria's visit to the Montverde Academy track had nothing to do with Gatlin. The 2 men shuck hands and spoke for a minute, but Hereria was at the track to see some other athletes he was working with. (2) Gatlin didn't initially break 10 because it takes a few races to get there. He ran 10.09 his first year back and 9.95 the following year...not the type of improvement that says doping. (3) Who are the "other athletes" Dennis coaches that were caught doping...please name them. (4) There are definitely elite level coaches who think Gatlin is clean, I know this because I have heard some say it. In fact, one of America's top sprint coaches is a big Gatlin advocate.
Perhaps Gatlin does not deserve benefit of the doubt, but then perhaps neither does an alcoholic who gets caught walking past a bar.
Karl Hungus wrote:
If Gatlin is 100% clean I'll go to a camp that will pray the gay away.
Would be a good place to hook up.
Well said, sums up the whole issue wrote:
Shame Game wrote:
The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.
When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.
Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.
Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.
The IOC awards Russia sports clothing company "Bosco" with a huge contract succeeding Nike. Both Coe and Radcliffe and USATF are controllable , with Russia in control. Gatlin has nothing to worry about.
Hollywood movies are a total joke with the PED usage, one difference is that they aren't competing with anybody but this is totally natty.....https://www.watchotc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/hugh-jackman-before-after-1024x576.jpg
Karl Hungus wrote:
If Gatlin is 100% clean I'll go to a camp that will pray the gay away.
Dude you crack me up. ?
2017-18 wrote:
Shame Game wrote:
The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.
When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.
Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.
Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.
Even though Radcliffe and Jager were "likely doping" according to WADA , they have done many good charities events , and this should count for something during the Christmas season.
Problem solved, outsource anti-doping to Santa.
Bored Student wrote:
I am not a Justin Gatlin fan, but there is nothing in this at all. If someone was going to pay me $250,000 I wouldn't hesitate in supplying drugs. You can buy testosterone and HgH for $250
On another side as well, isn't his agent Renaldo Nehemiah?
You definitely cannot buy a 3 month cycle of hgh for $250.
Allegations of PED used as a weapon to attack the disfavored wrote:
Once again, simple allegations are being used to try to bring down an athlete, simply because he beat an aging former world champion, Usain Bolt. We have to stop allowing the press to use baseless allegation as a weapon to bring down individuals who they feel are unworthy, without any proof whatsoever. Justin Gatlin is one of the most "tested" athletes in the world. He has not failed a drug test in 14 yrs. No doubt that this attack has Sebastian Coe and his ilk(Gatlin haters) written all over it. Sebastian Coe has already said that (even before the Olympics) he feels Justin Gatlin should have been banned for life. So if we can't prove he is doing PED's, let's just entrap those around him by offering them bribes of $250 thousand dollars for something they could get at any weightlifting gym for $1000 dollars, and if they take they bride let's try to conflate their actions with the guilt of Justin Gatlin without any proof at all. If they have any proof Justin Gatlin is currently using PED's then they should "put up or shut up." Reinaldo Nehemiah was right when he said "I don't condone doping but Justin Gatlin is not the poster child for it. "He's done his time, he plays by the rules, the IAAF reinstated him. They said if you come back we should accept that. "So to put a narrative out that it's just Justin Gatlin and he's the bad guy, it's really not fair. It's inhumane. It's unsportsmanlike." Justin Gatlin is playing by your rules and now you're upset because he won, and you wanted someone else to win. Leave Justin Gatlin alone!
Hi Justin!
Not even close wrote:
Bored Student wrote:
I am not a Justin Gatlin fan, but there is nothing in this at all. If someone was going to pay me $250,000 I wouldn't hesitate in supplying drugs. You can buy testosterone and HgH for $250
On another side as well, isn't his agent Renaldo Nehemiah?
You definitely cannot buy a 3 month cycle of hgh for $250.
What about GHRP-2...aka: the speed peptide?
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Karl Hungus wrote:
If Gatlin is 100% clean I'll go to a camp that will pray the gay away.
Dude you crack me up. ?
+1
Hungus is one of the funniest posters on this forum. ?
Drugs, Drugs,Drugs! wrote:
Hollywood movies are a total joke with the PED usage, one difference is that they aren't competing with anybody but this is totally natty.....
https://www.watchotc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/hugh-jackman-before-after-1024x576.jpg
You don't think that's computer-enhanced images? ?
Shame Game wrote:
What irritates me is the selectivity of the Brojos doping shmears. Rupp is dirty but Jager is clean despite similar performances and WADA reports. Radcliffe is a workhorse but Shobukva is a cheater even though neither athlate tested positive for EPO but both had highly suspicious ABPs.
Canova is a genius but Aden is a drug-pusher despite similar history with dirty athletes and miracle performances.
Letsrun gives media friendly athletes/coaches VIP treatment but hound-dogs anybody who appears standoffish.
Gotta disagree on the Rupp to Jager comparison. That's like saying,"Trump is in real estate and has bad fake hair and my dad is in real estate and has no hair, so they're equally shady."
Jager does not have a coach who's known him since he was 16, who admitted (almost pointlessly) that he used drugs during his own active career, who walks around with topical testosterone in a tubey-tube, and who encouraged Jager to use testosterone as a teenager. And that's apart from all of the other allegations by other athletes against Salazar, and the IV solution shenanigans, etc., etc. Ba-BOOM!
I don't think the Brojos have disproportionately gone after the NOP or Rupp, given the slew of stories about those dirty dirtbags in the real media. If Jager's group became the focus of tracky-track running's answer to Watergate, and the Brojos clammed up, that would be telling.
I'm with you on Radcliffe, but I doubt the Brojos think she's clean either. They, along with most of the rest of the world, are not in a position to push the issue. But talk to anyone with a smidgen of knowledge and no bias toward or against Radcliffe, and they will tell you they think the 2:15:25 is as diiiiiiiiirty as Hillary's pussyhat.
Canova is a joke, well, not a joke because he ruthlessly does what he can do make bank off fast marathoners, so he's successful. But people are thrown off by the fact that he knows a ton about marathon training, legit. But I don't know why people think that means he's not all about the doping, as if it's EITHER Renato is shady OR he's knowledgeable. That's like saying EITHER someone is a dooooooooh-per OR she just works magically hard -- and even the dingdongs in this place don't but that last bit anymore....that said Aden looks dirtier than Canova because he was dumb enough to be too close to his own stash. Renato would not do that. Fact.
Funny how all these shady characters who’ll say anything for their own gain suddenly become believable when they throw out names of unpopular athletes. I think it would be extremely boneheaded to use PED when under the scorching spotlight of all those who are not happy that Gatlin was allowed to return. Not even he is that stupid.
Shame Game wrote:
The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.
When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.
I’ll never forget Kam getting harangued over PED usage after he won the New York Marathon for the cardinal sin of coming from the same country as Rita Jeptoo and Jemima Sumgong. Hypocritical as it was despicable.
JG you are shameful. If I ever see you in the crosswalk I would accidentally run you over. Otherwise shame on me.
Innocent until proven guilty! His coaches words mean nothing.
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