Justin Gatlin embroiled in new doping scandal

British paper distracting from British cycling doper shame.

Shame Game wrote:

The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.

When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.

Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.

Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.

+1

This is nothing new wrote:

This site's founders and friends will do anything to discredit the guy.

Does this mean anything? No.

The so-called evidence for PED scandals is so phenomenally sketchy that is persuades an objective reader there is no real drug problem at all. If you just have irrelevant anecdotes, stop featuring these stupid claims.

Mavis Beacon teaches racial stereotyping wrote:

British paper distracting from British cycling doper shame.

No they have reported on Froomie as well. You can't make that claim accurately. Defend Gatlin on his merits if you wish, but don't pretend his coach and agent do not damage his attempt to be rehabilitated here. I don't claim to know if Gatlin is clean, but it is silly to claim there is much loyalty to Froom by the real UK press.

While i think He should have been banned for life before, i think He was clean now. Generally think the 100m have become cleaner (slower)

Shame Game wrote:

The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.

When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.

Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.

Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.

Even though Radcliffe and Jager were "likely doping" according to WADA , they have done many good charities events , and this should count for something during the Christmas season.

2017-18 wrote:

Even though Radcliffe and Jager were "likely doping" according to WADA , they have done many good charities events , and this should count for something during the Christmas season.

+1

Also, Radcliffe unselfishly works for the IAAF, instead of earning more money elsewhere. Who cares about her leveling the playing field!

All this sanctimonius defense of Gatlin makes me want to throw up. It’s not just this story. A year ago he is photographed at practice track in Florida with one of history’s worst doping dealers Carlos Memo Hereria who was with Gatlin in México back in 05 weeks before he was popped. You lie about your doping offense & it should be life ban. He lied about that whole deal. Gatlin comes off ban & after year of trying it clean & not breaking 10 he CHOOSES to be coached by Dennis Mitchell who was busted himself as was his wife during Balco. Other athletes Mitchell has trained tested positive during career. Not one coach in elite sprinting thinks Mitchell & Gatlin are clean. So those defending Gatlin please tell me you have evidence to refute the facts I just laid out. He deserves no protection or be given the benefit of the doubt.

Agree. We are talking about a man who has begged to be welcomed back into the sport, but yet refuses to disassociate himself from guys known to be involved with cheating. No sympathy for him.

I have about as much confidence that Gatlin is clean as I do any track & field athlete. It is unfortunate that his name comes up in this scandal, but I am almost certain he's not doping. Between the BP, analytics and USADA/WADA basically using his body as a pin cushion, doping would be about as risky as running during a lightning storm with a metal rod in your hand. For several years, Gatlin was the most tested athlete in all of professional track & field and has withstood several investigations by European media outlets. I think it's possible that Mitchell and Wagner were embellishing, I can't say for sure, but again, I am pretty sure Gatlin isn't doping.

Gatlin/Mitchell fully know how to avoid positive tests from microdosing, undectable new drugs, traveling outside US for “training” & “medical treatment” to avoid testing altogether during heavy doping & since carbon isotope testing is rarely used he has risked it as he feels it’s his only way to perform at that level.

Look at the tree of coaches & agents & it’s well-known within sport who the dopers are. Where there is smoke there is fire. He has dirty agent & look at Coleman signing w/dirty agent in Emmanuel Hudson who has had several athletes test positive. It’s a never ending cycle among not all but too many elites.

I have doubts about Gatlin but I agree with much of your broader point. For example, There is a huge disparity when it comes to ‘reporting’ on Dr Brown. Lots of athletes in top training groups worked with him. Yet athletes in other groups get to point suspicion only at NOP and are never asked about teammates and former teammates. Radcliffe questions are also played down quite a bit. I am not sure what to think of those reports.

Shame Game wrote:

The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.

When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.

Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.

Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.

I'm not defending Gatlin in terms of his PED use. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Gatlin is on PEDs. Not because of his history, or his coach, or his track buddies, but because he is a 9.7x 100 Meter man. Period.

What irritates me is the selectivity of the Brojos doping shmears. Rupp is dirty but Jager is clean despite similar performances and WADA reports. Radcliffe is a workhorse but Shobukva is a cheater even though neither athlate tested positive for EPO but both had highly suspicious ABPs. Canova is a genius but Aden is a drug-pusher despite similar history with dirty athletes and miracle performances.

Letsrun gives media friendly athletes/coaches VIP treatment but hound-dogs anybody who appears standoffish.

ggilder wrote:The so-called evidence for PED scandals is so phenomenally sketchy that is persuades an objective reader there is no real drug problem at all. If you just have irrelevant anecdotes, stop featuring these stupid claims.

Are you also posting on the flat earth thread and the "moon landing was fake" threads too? Because that's the amount of facts you are ignoring.

TrackCoach wrote:Gatlin was the most tested athlete in all of professional track & field

Yes, and Lance Armstrong was the most tested athlete in cycling.

It's like you just stepped out of the year 2000 with these excuses.

the fact is froome and gatlin both on the same thing amongst many peds.

both benefitting from a souped up nervous system and other things it does

and farah

and many many others

including it made bolt and the lad that came second

no innocents at this stage , it literally is a stage the world

need a bad guy , step up

IGF-1 lr3 , the speed peptide needs to be exposed to the masses

there is a vast control network in many sports that can easily keep

this under wraps as have done ,

as purpose of wada to control narrative of doping

and stop the minnows and leave it for choosen few well connected few.

as was that norwegian marathoner , who comes into race shredded . which this does and saves the muscle

obviously epo or some unknown ped important in aerobic side

but having a souped up nervous system for over 2 hrs very important

how much did conova get as only dopes east africans

ban calculo, jamin and John Utah.

iddiots

wejo wrote:

I'm not sure exactly to make of that report as it doesn't outline very clearly what Mitchell said.

Big news for sure is that Gatlin has fired his coach Dennis Mitchell.

Most damning comments seem to be from Wagner, then Mitchell and Gatlin isn't directly involved except saying Wagner is his “race track” agent.

"Gatlin said that Wagner arranged deals and travel and was paid a percentage of his earnings. “His connections run deep, deeper than he allows us to know,” the sprinter said."

At the very least Gatlin is suffering from associating with questionable characters which we've criticized him for. At the worst, he's been back doping.

What is funny to me is that anyone ever thinks the athletes WERE NOT doping. He has been doping for all his career, they ALL DO. He just has avoided getting caught recently. Our distance runners who were low-profile and running in the 13:30s a couple years ago, and then POW! They are medaling?!? This is because they got on the best program.

Gatlin never stopped doping, he just stopped getting caught. Think about it? He won Worlds when he was 35, in an event rife with doping.

Anyone criticising those booing in London now?

To think I almost felt sorry for him.