westsouthrunner wrote:
Mike Tyson. Anyone who doesn't agree can fight him
I think Stallone could take him. Remember Stallone took down Apollo Creed, Mr. T & that big Russian dude...Ivan Drago? Stallone be da man! ?
westsouthrunner wrote:
Mike Tyson. Anyone who doesn't agree can fight him
I think Stallone could take him. Remember Stallone took down Apollo Creed, Mr. T & that big Russian dude...Ivan Drago? Stallone be da man! ?
Coevett wrote:
Roger Federer must be close. Likely competing against druggies, but still winning at 35 through skill, grace, and natural ergonomic athleticism. I suspect he might be taking some legal supplements such as metformin.
Fed is a much better athelete than Lebron in my opinion. Lebron is very effective, of course, but that is due to his size and strength, not his grace, fluidity, etc.
John Utah wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Roger Federer must be close. Likely competing against druggies, but still winning at 35 through skill, grace, and natural ergonomic athleticism. I suspect he might be taking some legal supplements such as metformin.
Fed is a much better athelete than Lebron in my opinion. Lebron is very effective, of course, but that is due to his size and strength, not his grace, fluidity, etc.
Said another way, if Lebron were fed’s height then Lebron he wouldn’t be a pro athelete.
Laser Viren, Waldemar Cierpinski, Taoufik Makhloufi and mo Farah.
John Utah wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Fed is a much better athelete than Lebron in my opinion. Lebron is very effective, of course, but that is due to his size and strength, not his grace, fluidity, etc.
Said another way, if Lebron were fed’s height then Lebron he wouldn’t be a pro athelete.
If Lebron were Fed's height, he'd still be a better basketball player than Fed. And he'd still be stronger than Fed and faster than Fed. And if he had played as much tennis as Fed, he'd be better at that as well.
Think This One Through wrote:
What would Brady say? wrote:
Hi Chump. Why not listen to what Brady himself says rather than post a link to a fluff piece on one of the most bogus "news" sources of all time.
C'mon man...all the great ones say that, e.g., Manning, Bradshaw, Elway. Montana was a product of the Bill Walsh West Coast Offense as much as Brady is with the BB system. When Montana left for KC for 92/93, his stats dropped significantly and there were no more SB appearances. You're just one of many Brady haters because of his attitude...no surprises there. Who cares about Brady's personality - the guy's a winner and he may just get yet....another SB this season.
Montana was at the very end of his career when he went to Kansas City and he still turned that franchise around and brought them to the brink of a Super Bowl appearance. The 49er's owner Eddie DeBartolo didn't want Montana to get hurt worse which is why the Niners didn't sign him. Montana played in an era where defenders could legally tee-off on quarterbacks. Montana absorbed over 1000 times the punishment Brady has received. Indeed, the modern era of pansy quarterbacks started with the "Brady Rule".
No, Brady got credit for a couple of Super Bowl wins early in his career when he was a game manager of a team with a great D (defense wins championships) then he went 10 years without a Super Bowl win until Bill put together another great D.
Brady is just another good QB without Bill. Certainly not a great athlete. Montana, Elway and Cam Newton are far superior athletes.
dtyujrt wrote:
caIculo wrote:
Jim Ryun (1:38 low 800m runner)
POD
Clean as an athlete perhaps. As a politician he was known even among his Republican colleagues as "porky" for how addicted he was to pork barrel schemes.
Justin Gatlin. He's gotta shower every day.
I can pretty much guarantee that I'm clean. I'm assuming the beef I ate today wasn't tainted, otherwise that's what I'll go for. In case it fails I can always blame my asthmatic girlfriend right?
DaleCooper wrote:
who knows
+1 The above is the only post of any value here because--and we all know it--we *do not* know the truth of these matters and never will. We know for certain who some cheaters are, but the truth about all the others is lost amid all the posturing, calumny, lies, and bribes.
Yiannis Kouros.
@John Utah wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Said another way, if Lebron were fed’s height then Lebron he wouldn’t be a pro athelete.
If Lebron were Fed's height, he'd still be a better basketball player than Fed. And he'd still be stronger than Fed and faster than Fed. And if he had played as much tennis as Fed, he'd be better at that as well.
You are smoking crack. You could not be more wrong on every point.
Libertarian vegan wrote:
Laser Viren, Waldemar Cierpinski, Taoufik Makhloufi and mo Farah.
Rick Flair
Greatest and cleanest cyclists EVER! Would be the one and only Tom Simpson
Alistair Overeem is the greatest MMA fighter ever.
Kawauchi
back in the MF day wrote:
caIculo wrote:
Jim Ryun (1:38 low 800m runner)
You forgot that 3:24 mid 1500. He wouda been awesome in a race with better wabbits.
Considering there were no PEDs on a banned list in 1967, and steroids were both legal and widespreadly used in US collegiate system at the time, then he was clean in the context of the era. A year later, steroids were made illegal and his performances dropped markedly. Ryun probably never had a drug test until 68.
Credit Limit wrote:
back in the MF day wrote:
You forgot that 3:24 mid 1500. He wouda been awesome in a race with better wabbits.
Considering there were no PEDs on a banned list in 1967, and steroids were both legal and widespreadly used in US collegiate system at the time, then he was clean in the context of the era. A year later, steroids were made illegal and his performances dropped markedly. Ryun probably never had a drug test until 68.
Don't forget he used a "inhaler" for asthma. And he was done at the elite level by 72.
The only possible answer wrote:
Me.