Doesn't have to be athletics either:
Phelps? Ryan Hall?
Doesn't have to be athletics either:
Phelps? Ryan Hall?
Horace Ashenfelter.
Emil Zátopek would eat him for breakfast!
Me.
Kobe Bryant the Greatest Athlete in World History in all sports
It's Kobe wrote:
Kobe Bryant the Greatest Athlete in World History in all sports
Negative...that would be Tom Brady.
Jim Ryun (1:38 low 800m runner)
Define "clean."
caIculo wrote:
Jim Ryun (1:38 low 800m runner)
POD
themanontherun wrote:
Define "clean."
Two showers a week + TP at least once.
Yuki Kawauchi?
Dewi Griffiths?
I tend to assume that runners who are not super elite and not training with an elite group (BTC, NOP, etc) are probably clean. They cannot afford or do not have access to a doctor/staff willing to dose them properly with the good stuff. Along these lines I would imagine most ultra/mountain runners are clean. But I suppose they do not all have to be like Anton Krupicka, simple and solitary training.
I do believe that until we are proven wrong it is safe to assume that most runners are fairly clean, as we do see runners get busted occasionally. It seems that we must place some faith in the governing bodies and policing forces in order to enjoy the sport and not go crazy thinking about who is or is not doping. This is the same attitude I use when watching cycling.
Interesting, others may be the same way, but I do not think about doping when I watch baseball, soccer, football. I don't ever watch Mike Trout hit a home run and wonder how juiced he is. Sports are funny.
crosscounts wrote:
Yuki Kawauchi?
Dewi Griffiths?
I tend to assume that runners who are not super elite and not training with an elite group (BTC, NOP, etc) are probably clean. They cannot afford or do not have access to a doctor/staff willing to dose them properly with the good stuff. Along these lines I would imagine most ultra/mountain runners are clean. But I suppose they do not all have to be like Anton Krupicka, simple and solitary training.
You should probably read this:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/sports/runner-christian-hesch-describes-doping-with-epo.html?referer=Football brings in the dough wrote:
It's Kobe wrote:
Kobe Bryant the Greatest Athlete in World History in all sports
Negative...that would be Tom Brady.
No, sorry, Tom Brady is not a good athlete.
Phil Gaimon
doris day wrote:
Football brings in the dough wrote:
Negative...that would be Tom Brady.
No, sorry, Tom Brady is not a good athlete.
Tom Brady is a great QB with a GREAT offensive line and people who could catch a pass while some steroid enraged monster is about to ram into them in mid air.
Not athletic.
Hard question. But talking of distance running
I would bet on the italian Giorgio Calcaterra , a true legend in his own right. 3 times 100km world champion
12 times in a row (thats crazy!!) winner of the great ultra classic 100km del Passatore in Italy
In 2000 , world record as the first man able to run 16 marathons between 2:13 and 2:20.
I dont know a better ambassador for distance running , a guy with a true positive approach,
very humble and always with a smile on his face. He's the quintessential of what I consider a true champion.
Now at 45 years old he's still running and still winning , from 10km to 100km . He s a legend.
Who can ya trust? wrote:
crosscounts wrote:
Yuki Kawauchi?
Dewi Griffiths?
I tend to assume that runners who are not super elite and not training with an elite group (BTC, NOP, etc) are probably clean. They cannot afford or do not have access to a doctor/staff willing to dose them properly with the good stuff. Along these lines I would imagine most ultra/mountain runners are clean. But I suppose they do not all have to be like Anton Krupicka, simple and solitary training.
You should probably read this:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/sports/runner-christian-hesch-describes-doping-with-epo.html?referer=
I think I think I knew stuff like that.
Tough issue to approach from any angle, no answers, lots of questions.
Top 5 List:
1. Rich Froning
2. Ragen Chastain
3. Parvaneh Moayedi
4. Larry Macon
5. Jared Lorenzen
runn wrote:
doris day wrote:
No, sorry, Tom Brady is not a good athlete.
Tom Brady is a great QB with a GREAT offensive line and people who could catch a pass while some steroid enraged monster is about to ram into them in mid air.
Not athletic.
You must have an extremely specific definition of athletic. Is Tom Bray the greatest athlete of all time? I don't know. Is he one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time? Without a doubt. Yes the Patriots have always had a great O line but they have always had Brady too. You cannot pick and choose like that.
The Patriots are great.
Tom Brady is great.
I think this exact thread topic has been done about 20 times over the years.