• wut is happening
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 2:48PM - in reply to So Sad
      • wut is happening
      • Especially sad if the men get a comparatively superior hire.

        ...or if they get an equally unqualified hire...

        If Texas men & women to be national title contending teams, they are going to need to put at least a little effort into the distance side....

        If I were an athlete on the Texas team I would be pissed the best my head coach could do is someone with no legitimate collegiate coaching experience. Respect to her athletic accomplishments, but only HS coaching experience? Seriously? This is Texas??
    • All Mine
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      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 2:53PM - in reply to wut is happening
      • All Mine
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      • wut is happening wrote:

        Especially sad if the men get a comparatively superior hire.

        ...or if they get an equally unqualified hire...

        If Texas men & women to be national title contending teams, they are going to need to put at least a little effort into the distance side....

        If I were an athlete on the Texas team I would be pissed the best my head coach could do is someone with no legitimate collegiate coaching experience. Respect to her athletic accomplishments, but only HS coaching experience? Seriously? This is Texas??

        How many distance points did USC score when they won the outdoor title or UGA when they won indoors?
    • Surveysays
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 3:07PM - in reply to All Mine
      • Surveysays
      • Georgia had a 4th place finisher in the 5k indoors? You’re telling me those weren’t big points?

        Think about how established of a powerhouse Arkansas has always been. Much of that stability comes from distance side.

        Not saying it’s the end all be all, just saying neglecting it certainly isn’t beneficial.
    • idiots
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 3:17PM - in reply to Y'all R HATERZ
      • idiots
      • Y'all R HATERZ wrote:

        LRC will never be satisfied lol

        First y'all complain about the same people getting all the jobs.

        Then if it's a new name then y'all complain they have no experience, can't coach and can't recruit.

        Then if it's a DI athlete or retired professional y'all complain they only got hired because of name recognition and connections

        Oh and don't forget if it's a woman then y'all complain she was only hired for a diversity initiative

        You're trying to engage a bunch of trolls. It's just a waste of time.

        These same idiots were making fun of the Zeb Sion hire. Ya know the 2018 Women's Assistant Coach of the Year.

        It doesn't matter who Texas hires. There's a group of trolls on this forum that's going to go all in on the stupid.
    • Crystal Ballz
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 3:27PM - in reply to idiots
      • Crystal Ballz
      • The crazy thing to me is that the whole Texas thing seems weird. It’s Texas - the biggest sleeping giant in NCAA in almost all sports...for some reason they just can’t seem to put things together except for a few sports (Baseball, Swimming and Diving, etc)...

        Personally, I believe the culture, of “we are better than you, we have more stuff than you, blah, blah” has finally caught up to them. Hiring across the board has been average at best, and I think Most head coaches who do get hired don’t realize what kind of political nightmare grinder they are getting into, and then can’t get anything done...

        Just my two cents...

        Flo is like Shaka...hot name, decent results, great coach, but not from Texas and may struggle to really adapt to the culture to be successful - time will tell...
    • No Clue
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:01PM - in reply to suzy shoos
      • No Clue
      • A little shocking and I do wish her the best at Texas. A decent Coach, but just in her Section (Central Coast) she was not even the best high school distant coach out there!
    • Not a UT hater
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:16PM - in reply to Crystal Ballz
      • Not a UT hater
      • Crystal Ballz wrote:

        The crazy thing to me is that the whole Texas thing seems weird. It’s Texas - the biggest sleeping giant in NCAA in almost all sports...for some reason they just can’t seem to put things together except for a few sports (Baseball, Swimming and Diving, etc)...

        Personally, I believe the culture, of “we are better than you, we have more stuff than you, blah, blah” has finally caught up to them. Hiring across the board has been average at best, and I think Most head coaches who do get hired don’t realize what kind of political nightmare grinder they are getting into, and then can’t get anything done...

        Just my two cents...

        Flo is like Shaka...hot name, decent results, great coach, but not from Texas and may struggle to really adapt to the culture to be successful - time will tell...

        What a lot of people fail to realize is the potential UT has to be a powerhouse in the state of Texas. Texas Tech is on the rise but everyone doesn’t want to go to the middle of nowhere. TX A&M is really not impressive in my opinion, they get a lot of top recruits by default and just because they’re in the SEC. Baylor is nice but is more of a 200/400 school and is more expensive. A 70% scholarship there is a full at most other universities.

        If we look at UT they are the historic host location for one of the top three most competitive HS State meets in the country (Cali and Florida having the other two). They are in the center of Texas which makes it more marketable for athletes from all parts of the state Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso and other smaller cities (Austin is the state capital). UT is the second biggest school in the state, and the TX Relays alone attracts some of the best athletes from across the nation. No other school (Tech, Houston, UTSA, UTEP, Baylor, TX A&M, etc....) host a meet even close to TX Relays, the Longhorn is the brand logo of Texas. It’s almost equivalent to the Cowboys Star.

        So I say all that to say with the right direction there’s absolute no reason why UT should not be consistently Top 3 at NC’s. The only thing Tech and A&M has over them is an indoor facility. If the new assistant coaching staff is not lazy and if UT gets past the issues from the previous coaches they will be unstoppable.

        I’m not a UT supporter but I don’t see where all the hate comes from. Edrick got a great opportunity is what it is.
    • Noooooo
    • MAC Dude
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:31PM - in reply to Noooooo
      • MAC Dude
      • Jim Garnham has been a great coach for Notre Dame. Really knows his stuff. Sparks getting rid of him just shows that he won't be able to handle the job. A shame.
    • Shockedtobone
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:37PM - in reply to Y'all R HATERZ
      • Shockedtobone
      • No doubt this is a world class runner with a good history of coaching... but can TEXAS REALLY only find a HS coach?!?!? This is crazy!!!!!

        I wouldn’t hire a plumber to rescue the boys in Thailand!!!! If you have access to the BEST ($, school, academic prestige) you HIRE the best.

        Unless you don’t give AF about distance points, then we’ll done ??
    • jskknf
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:38PM - in reply to Noooooo
      • jskknf
      • Noooooo wrote:

        Wow123 wrote:

        Crazytimes wrote:

        I wonder how quickly the field event coaches will be snatched up if that’s the case?

        Just heard that Garnham was let go at Notre Dame.

        https://jobs.nd.edu/postings/13373

        Does this mean that Carlson is not safe either? I thought all assistants would be retained at this point. Guess not.
    • wildcard226
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      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:46PM - in reply to Nexttopic69
      • wildcard226
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      • Ninow is easily a top 5 throws coach in the country. Interesting to see if he wants to coach at a school that only wants distance runners
    • Waitwhat69
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:50PM - in reply to jskknf
      • Waitwhat69
      • Notre Dame has sprints distance and jumps position positings
    • Whocares6969
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:50PM - in reply to wildcard226
      • Whocares6969
      • Y’all have terrible measurements of people’s egos
    • Well hold on....
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:54PM - in reply to Shockedtobone
      • Well hold on....
      • Shockedtobone wrote:

        No doubt this is a world class runner with a good history of coaching... but can TEXAS REALLY only find a HS coach?!?!? This is crazy!!!!!

        I wouldn’t hire a plumber to rescue the boys in Thailand!!!! If you have access to the BEST ($, school, academic prestige) you HIRE the best.

        Unless you don’t give AF about distance points, then we’ll done ??

        Hate to say it, but some (“some” being the key word) of the best coaches come from the high school and high school club level. For example let’s look at Michael Norman. He had an AMAZING collegiate career at USC don’t get me wrong, but he was in the US Olympic Trials 200m semifinals his senior year of HS.

        His freshman year of HS he ran several open 400s but his best time was only 49.54 and 22.6. One year later as a high school sophomore he went 46.94 and 20.82.

        Natural talent alone will not take make you drop your times that quickly, part of it is the coaching. If you look at these big Power 5 schools most of them can recruit to there school which is easy if you have a 150-250K recruiting budget but they can’t develop the talent once they get there. HS coaches have no choice but to develop and they do it with half the flexibility of most collegiate programs.

        Think of it this way.... if your recruiting one of the best athletes in the nation, who is it that coached that athlete to those times helped them to those times that make you want to recruit them to begin with? If not a parent, the high school and/or club coach.
    • Nopersnopenope
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:55PM - in reply to wildcard226
      • Nopersnopenope
      • wildcard226 wrote:

        Ninow is easily a top 5 throws coach in the country. Interesting to see if he wants to coach at a school that only wants distance runners

        Would not classify him as one of the top at all.
    • jajfksk
      • RE: 2018 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion 7/13/2018 4:56PM - in reply to Waitwhat69
      • jajfksk
      • Waitwhat69 wrote:

        Notre Dame has sprints distance and jumps position positings

        Are you sure about the distance job? I have not seen that posting.