High hamstring pain right under butt won't go way no matter what! Proximal hamstring tendonitis or strain?

Sure. I've had it. it will go away when you stop aggravating it. You don't strengthen something WHEN it is injured.

I've already stopped my hamstring strengthening work and just trying to rest as much as possible, hasn't made a difference thought.

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That being said........ I had high hamstring pain that sometimes manifested in the middle and even lower hamstring, it was a year and a half of problems i went through, a long drawn out very annoying problem. I figured out how to fix it though. I bought a stick roller with the little rotating balls and i went and ran a solid base and focused on good form. It still flares up once every 2 months but always goes away. If you roll that hamstring out and don't do stupid A$$ stretches you will be fine, focus on form and make sure that you are landing the same and not doing weird crap with your hurt leg. It's easy to start pushing off awkwardly on your injured leg which accentuates the issue.

I took of 4 months at one point and came back to running and it still hurt and bothered me everyday, it wasn't until i fixed my form and stop doing dumb workouts and rolled my leg out consistently that the issue went away.

Regular manipulation...massage, rolling, self massage, tennis ball, anything. All the time. Should help at least a little, maybe a lot.

The strengthen, seek advice on this.

I avoid stretching, just my opinion.

Was there anything wrong with your running form that you found out caused the injury? And did you use a foam roller or something like a tennis ball or lacrosse ball?

Right now I foam roll about twice a day but I'm afraid to do any more in case I irritate things and I always roll only on the lower and middle hamstring and don't go further up to the place it hurts.

I have the same issue I don't know if it's tendonitis or not. I think it might be proximal hamstring tendonitis. The PT I went to didn't seem to know what it was but did ART on me. I don't think it's helped and I have tried to lie down as much as possible besides doing glute bridges twice a day but still no improvement at all after two weeks.

Wow, thought I was reading my own post. I have the same injury as you. Started a couple yrs ago. I rested it some and cut down mileage and used a lacrosse ball to roll on and it went away. Unlike you, I DID feel the discomfort while running. High left hamstring/lower butt. When it was bad it felt like a rubber band.

Around March of this year it flared up again and hasn't left since! I tried to cut down but it didn't work and my upper glute would ache at night laying in bed and was very hard to sleep.

I've done barely any running, lots of walking since March. Tried acupuncture (6 sessions): did nothing. Just bought a TENS 7000 electrical muscle simulator. I use that about 30 min a day. Don't know if it helps but it doesn't make it worse. I don't stretch the hamstrings much. Just a little and I don't aggravate them. I do some exercises to strengthen inner quads.

Only semi-positive thing is that the injury seems to have moved down from my lower glute. Now it's more the upper hamsting. I've been able to run a couple times a week, 3-4 miles. But something is still off as my hamstring still gets somewhat sore.

I'm going to use my stick and foam roller more as I hardly ever did and go back to lacrosse ball. I'm probably going to see a highly regarded sports rehab guy locally as well. But yes it's frustrating. I was a 40-50 mpw runner for years. Only cross training that doesn't irritate for me is walking at a decent pace and swimming. Water running irritated the crap out of it.

Good luck. Yes it's frustrating for sure.

Anecdotal reports of cycling helping it as x-training as well.

I suspect there are many causes that manifest in similar symptoms. Trial and error as with all the classic chronic running injuries (PF, etc)

Good luck to you as well and glad you are able to run a bit again! I almost miss achilles tendon problems since at least that is something I am familiar with and know exactly how to treat. I'm not sure if it's a bad sign but for me the pain seemed to move from the upper hamstring slightly further up. I'm not sure what I did to cause that since I've been so careful to not aggravate it. Unfortunately I don't know how to swim so I am not really doing any cardio. I've been afraid to walk to much since I occasionally feel a twinge of pain and start to panic. Like you I also have tried anything I think might help. I used some Arnica gel to see if that might help with inflammation and I take Turmeric supplements. I also have a red light laser that is supposed to stimulate healing.

On Thursday I'm going to a PT to see if I should try the EPAT therapy. I found a lot of stuff online for eccentric hamstring exercises but I haven't started anything yet since I don't know what works and what doesn't for this problem. Will post on here once I see what the doctor says I read a lot of reviews on the office and they have successfully treated a lot of marathon runners so I have high hopes!

I've been getting this pain since the first part of July, which was possibly a middle hamstring tear at that time.

The first issue was pain in my butt, which was especially painful when sitting, and standing for more than a few minutes.

More recently the pain moved to the middle of my hamstring, and my pain is sometimes quite painful when walking.

I was able to walk a mile with no pain a month ago but then it flared up again.

Pushing off the wall of the pool with my legs aggravates the injury and I've stopped swimming due to this.

Stretching appears to not help, which probably includes lunges.

Icing always helps. Heat always hurts.

Sitting in a squat position is relaxing but I don't know if this is good for it.

Reaching down to the floor with bent knees is very relaxing and relieves the pain.

I think indoor cycling is fine as long as I don't push it too hard and use lower cadences.

Harambe wrote:

Anecdotal reports of cycling helping it as x-training as well.

I suspect there are many causes that manifest in similar symptoms. Trial and error as with all the classic chronic running injuries (PF, etc)

I have heard cycling is a good cross training for hamstring issues. I think I'm going to try it out once the pain goes down a bit. I actually don't think my quads are that strong since I've been avoiding squats and lunges with this injury so that might help restore strength.

Did you have a sudden injury that you tore the hamstring or did it start more gradually? Mine came on very mild and quickly got worse and now I'm afraid I'll be battling this a long time. For me stretching doesn't seem to help either. On some days coming up from a squat actually hurts and also when I bend to pick something up. I have been too scared to try cycling but if the PT says it's ok I might give it a try.

The problem is probably a muscle in your lower back.

I have been having the EXACT same problem I think. I haven't even done spinning or elliptical but it still hurts just to bend over especially if I bend at a certain angle reaching for something. I had hope when it seemed to get better after resting for a week but then I got a massage from the PT and now it has suddenly gotten even worse than it was when I went running. Now the slightest movement causes a twinge of pain in the upper hamstring area and I don't even know if I should continue any bridges or strengthening work.

Is it possible the massage made things worse in some way and can that affect the healing process? I don't see any bruising but the pain feels worse and has even spread to the inner thigh area now.

Can you do a reverse plank with leg raise? If this isoloates the pain then it could be SI joint/high hamstring tendonopathy

I had the same thing for over two years. What fixed it was consistent glute activation exercises before EVERY run and workout

I wouldn't rule out piriformis issues. Pain from that little guy can project down the hamstring.

Can't hurt to do classic piriformis cure - sit on a baseball or tennis ball and massage the butt with it.

Do it for 3-4 days before you decide if it is unrelated.

Seriously - I know several people who thought they had hamstring problems but the tennis ball cure saved them in days.

I have had both piriformis and upper hamstring attachment problems and they feel very similar, pain up under the glute. My experience has been that it is just a slow healing injury once you aggravate it. The two most helpful things I have found are first, sitting on a tennis ball or racquet/lacrosse ball, as mentioned above, and second practicing hurdle step-overs, which use and stretch that muscle region but with very little force. I have always kept running with it but dropped back to just very easy pace and no high intensity until it felt like the problem was settling down.