Bump. Keep us updated.
Bump. Keep us updated.
Hi guys, i'm back with an update. It's been a brilliant morning with great weather. I ran again in Valle dela Luna, much lower altitude and i felt strong. I ran 15 miles, 3 as a warm-up then 1 mile on 1 mile off x5 + 2 miles cool-down. My warm-up and cool down miles were at @ 6:40 pace. Also my off miles after every hard one were at @6:30-6:50 pace. My 5 hard miles were run in : 4:57 - 4:58 - 4:54 - 4:56 - 4:49. It was a very hard one, especially at 8000 feet. However, now i feel some pain, just outside my knee-cap, 2 inches below it, close to the tibial tuberosity. It's worse when i bend my leg or stand up after i sit on a chair for longer. What do you think it might be? Have a great day.
Geez mate. 4 min ks for 21 k at 4000 metres at this stage is just plain crazy. That is about 3.10/15 effort at that height. Your mile reps at 2500 are equal to about 4.10 to 15. That is crazy and simply unsustainable for a 2.19 guy.
Give your body time to adjust.
Did you have a coach back in Australia?
I think those conversion charts are a bit subjective and it depends on each individual. Of course i could have run much faster at sea level but i can't run a 4 minute mile, although one day i might want to attempt it. Also i'm quite fresh, haven't pushed a lot in the last weeks and i'm excited too so those factors help too. I haven't had a coach since college, i moved to the marathon and he thought i wasn't going to be successful. I ran my 2:19 on pure hate to be honest, i wasn't in sub 2:20 shape. Next spring i want to try a fast marathon and go for a sub 2:15 honestly.
My apologies for my night shift brain. I converted those mile reps at the 4000 metre rate rather than 2500. All that confusing imperialism, too many feet and not enough metrics lol.
So probably in the context of a continual fast slow 16 km session you would say it's worth 15 secs or so per mile rep.
Good luck with the 2.15 goal.
Dave C and Julian S clocked good breakthroughs this year and I reckon Brady T is ready to hit up a 2.17/18 next year.
Just take your time adjusting to the stresses of altitude.
How is the altitude training going?
epicTCK wrote:
this would be the ultimate troll if you weren't legit.
How are you getting internet / cell service?
The actual list of late 20s Aussie 2.19 marathoners is very very very small. The one guy who is close to the times mentioned was running around his local neighbourhood when this guy was posting.
Young Aussies are not comfortable talking about elevation in feet.
It is unusual to hear a goung Aussie refer to his mobile phone as a cell phone.
Aussies go to Uni not college.
They would normally use 4WD rather than 4 x 4.
He talks of a spring marathon in sub 2.15. A spring marathon to an Aussie is Sept/Oct but I got the impression he is talking NH spring. He made no mention of trying to qualify for the GC CG team yet a sub 2.15 would put him in the hunt.
It seems very unlikely he is an Aussie IMHO.
Perhaps he is a US runner who wants to keep his ID secret or perhaps he is just full of sh#t.
it's a long shot but very interesting thread. Hopefully OP can give us a life update
dodobelgium wrote:
it's a long shot but very interesting thread. Hopefully OP can give us a life update
Pretty sure he was bullshitting us. He certainly didn't seem to be the Aussie marathon runner he claimed he was.
As a Bolivian-born American,I can tell you that people from the Andean parts of Bolivia aren’t very friendly, especially in La Paz. As other posters have said, La Paz is probably too high. Having spent time there, walking up the steep city streets is tiring, let alone running. You might fare better in the southern part of the city at roughly 3100-3300 masl, that and the higher levels of wealth in the area.
Have considered Cochabamba? It’s in a broad valley at roughly 2500 masl, and there is also a stadium with a proper 400m synthetic track. The weather is also much milder than in La Paz, which gets frigid at night. Transportation to higher and lower areas is also easily available.
I can’t tell any more than that. Keep in mind that Bolivia doesn’t really have any athletic culture and that you might be harassed by locals, who are not accustomed to seeing people running for the sake of itself (apart from chasing a ball in futból).
Good luck with finding a place to train!
Stupid me, I didn’t see that this is a 2-year old thread...
I lived in La Paz for two years, down in Calacoto, the wealthier southern part of town you mention. About 11,400 feet of altitude. I did run, on the fairly flat part of the lowest part of the highway running from the main part of the city down to Calacoto. It had a nice broad shoulder to run on. So, I used to do about 1.5 miles back and forth on the "flat" part. But, I was only doing 4-6 miles at a time. I can't imagine doing marathon training there. Maybe down in the Valle de la Luna, further south a bit out of town. Still somewhat hilly. Even there, you would have to do long runs on roads with no shoulders - pretty sketchy with the traffic. I did see the locals running from the center city (12,400 feet) up to El Alto which sits at about 13,300 feet. There is a broad shoulder for running there, but, wow, that is a really high elevation. I never tried it. You are correct, no athletic culture to speak of.
The people are not unfriendly, they are just reserved, as one will find mountain people to be all over the world. The lower the elevation, the more animated and emotional people are. BTW, I was never harassed even once while running in La Paz. I do think Cochabamba would be a better selection for marathon training if one really wanted to live in Bolivia. Quito, as mentioned, would be a much better choice, as there is a strong athletic culture in Ecuador, and they have had some great marathoners. There are also a lot of races (by Latin American standards) in Ecuador. I lived there for a year.
What happened?
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