Top New York boys team got second at NXN while everyone slept on them!!

SO.... wrote:

Hasn't Manlius been known to skip the federation meet? This debate between New York and California will rage on until 1 of 2 things happen: big-time New York programs come out to California and get crushed at Mt Sac and Clovis (the Woodlands were barely in the top 10 at Clovis this year on the boys side) or Doug Soles and Great Oak along with some other big state powers go to New York for the Manhattan invite and dominate. It's clear time and time again that most New York teams seem to be better prepared to handle the NXN conditions than California teams (for whatever reason). Until either side ventures to the other's turf during the season these debates will continue.

Uhh, The Woodlands are a Texas team.

Second, the Woodlands boys were undefeated this season except at NXN South. They never raced their varsity outside of state. The girls, yes, but the boys, no. Shame they didn't get to race at NXN, another year Texas get snubbed. They smashed Flower Mound twice already this year and FM managed to finish 14th...

If you're talking about the girls, they didn't even make the state meet this year in Texas.

Deadstream wrote:

USA_runrun wrote:

Can someone please explain why people on this website were saying there's at least 6 California teams that could beat the top New York team this year?

I'm gonna go with....

Because most of them don't have the slightest idea wtf they're talking about. :-D

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This guy knows what he's talking about.

Here we go- make it fair- NY should get 3 auto teams then a shot at up to 4 more at large.

Legacy should have been there for the girls- they beat Kinetic in their Sectional Championships and were close at Regionals.

Burnt Hills should have been there for the Boys.

Uhh, The Woodlands are a Texas team.

Second, the Woodlands boys were undefeated this season except at NXN South. They never raced their varsity outside of state. The girls, yes, but the boys, no. Shame they didn't get to race at NXN, another year Texas get snubbed. They smashed Flower Mound twice already this year and FM managed to finish 14th...

If you're talking about the girls, they didn't even make the state meet this year in Texas.[/quote]

Let's not get started with Texas. I don't have exact numbers and YES they have had their moments, but go back and look at South Lake Carroll's team finishes over the years, especially the girls. Definitely in the tail end of the team scores many, many years. I'd be curious if anyone has a breakdown of team finishes (boys/girls) by region over the years. I'd almost guarantee the South region is bringing up the rear. I could be wrong.

JackFrost wrote:

Let's not get started with Texas. I don't have exact numbers and YES they have had their moments, but go back and look at South Lake Carroll's team finishes over the years, especially the girls. Definitely in the tail end of the team scores many, many years. I'd be curious if anyone has a breakdown of team finishes (boys/girls) by region over the years. I'd almost guarantee the South region is bringing up the rear. I could be wrong.

Southlake Carroll is one of the smallest schools at NXN every year they send a team. A low relative enrollment, yet they make it to the national championship. I'd call that extremely impressive , even though they don't win it all.

I looked at the schools in the boys race, and Southlake Carroll ranked 22nd out of 22 in enrollment. The champs, Loudoun Valley (Purcellville), were ranked 21st. If school enrollment were the sole indicator of potential, then some teams with over double the number of students of the smallest schools should be on the victory stand each year. Doesn't work that way, though. A bigger pond has more fish, though, and that's a great starting point.

Congratulations to the mice that roared, like Southlake Carroll and Loudoun Valley.

how many times has a NY boys team won NXN? how many times has a CA team? scoreboard.