New Mexico will get a transfer from today’s top 10 and seal the deal for next year too. New Mexico will go 1,2,3 next year. If there was a Vegas line on this I would wager all of my savings. The transfer will be the biggest Flotrack summer news. You heard it here first.
Haters can suck it
Benefits of altitude, tons of girls to train with, perfect weather (been in the 70's with clear blue skies this week). I don't blame anybody wanting to take their running career to the next level for transferring to UNM.
FriendlyLobo wrote:
Haters can suck it
NCProud wrote:
New Mexico will get a transfer from today’s top 10 and seal the deal for next year too. New Mexico will go 1,2,3 next year. If there was a Vegas line on this I would wager all of my savings. The transfer will be the biggest Flotrack summer news. You heard it here first.
As explained earlier this week, no one cares. It’s unfortunate, but true.
The only top 10 underclass athlete this makes sense for is Ostrander or Sang. Since Allie is American I'll guess it's Sang.
YMMV wrote:
The only top 10 underclass athlete this makes sense for is Ostrander or Sang. Since Allie is American I'll guess it's Sang.
Sisters might want to be together...
Charlotte’s Caroline Sang (who ended up 6th), whom Cheryl Treworgy (race photographer and Shalane Flanagan’s mom) told us is Ednah Kurgat’s sister, took things out early and led for the first four minutes.
Unless the transfer gets either a release from their current school (not likely) or graduates, then they wouldn't be able to run next season. If NM is actively recruiting other teams' athletes, that is an NCAA violation and should be reported.
Don't blame them wrote:
Benefits of altitude, tons of girls to train with, perfect weather (been in the 70's with clear blue skies this week). I don't blame anybody wanting to take their running career to the next level for transferring to UNM.
You forgot to mention the crime, the drugs and the complete absence of night life.
birther wrote:
Don't blame them wrote:
Benefits of altitude, tons of girls to train with, perfect weather (been in the 70's with clear blue skies this week). I don't blame anybody wanting to take their running career to the next level for transferring to UNM.
You forgot to mention the crime, the drugs and the complete absence of night life.
You phrase that as if crime and drugs are not night life.
Given the two teams that won, nightlife may in fact be detrimental to team performance. Didn't see Princeton, UNLV or U Chicago in the top ten.
GOOD GUESS wrote:
YMMV wrote:
The only top 10 underclass athlete this makes sense for is Ostrander or Sang. Since Allie is American I'll guess it's Sang.
Sisters might want to be together...
Charlotte’s Caroline Sang (who ended up 6th), whom Cheryl Treworgy (race photographer and Shalane Flanagan’s mom) told us is Ednah Kurgat’s sister, took things out early and led for the first four minutes.
Sang isn't going anywhere. If she were going to leave, it would have been last summer during a coaching change. Training is obviously working, why change again. With her current development, an individual NCAA title could be in the cards in the next year and half.
Did some more research. Sang makes the most sense among the top 10, as I don't see anyone else going anywhere (The only person that looks like they might have eligibility left is Amy-Eloise Neal, who would be in her sixth year, but would have had two seasons of medical redshirts and could theoretically apply for another year of running eligibility). Sang would not need a release from UNC-Charlotte if she completes her finance degree this year. I dug a little deeper into Kurgat's claim that she is 22 and not 26 as the IAAF site states. If Sang is indeed her sister (both's father is named Kipsang, but one lists the last name as Rutto, where as the other lists the last name as Kurgat), and she claims to be 22, then she would be one month and one week younger than her sister. So either Kipsang was maintaining a polyamorous relationship (not uncommon in Africa) or someone is not being entirely truthful. One other thing I found interesting was Charlotte Taylor already had a college degree in England before going to USF for three years of running in graduate school at USF (she will be 24 years old in January). Can someone explain why a US collegian's 5 year eligibility clock starts the moment they enroll in college, but a foreign athlete's clock starts later? Seems like that just encourages coaches to pull more older foreign athletes.
birther wrote:
Did some more research. Sang makes the most sense among the top 10, as I don't see anyone else going anywhere (The only person that looks like they might have eligibility left is Amy-Eloise Neal, who would be in her sixth year, but would have had two seasons of medical redshirts and could theoretically apply for another year of running eligibility). Sang would not need a release from UNC-Charlotte if she completes her finance degree this year. I dug a little deeper into Kurgat's claim that she is 22 and not 26 as the IAAF site states. If Sang is indeed her sister (both's father is named Kipsang, but one lists the last name as Rutto, where as the other lists the last name as Kurgat), and she claims to be 22, then she would be one month and one week younger than her sister. So either Kipsang was maintaining a polyamorous relationship (not uncommon in Africa) or someone is not being entirely truthful. One other thing I found interesting was Charlotte Taylor already had a college degree in England before going to USF for three years of running in graduate school at USF (she will be 24 years old in January). Can someone explain why a US collegian's 5 year eligibility clock starts the moment they enroll in college, but a foreign athlete's clock starts later? Seems like that just encourages coaches to pull more older foreign athletes.
Lots of good info in this post. Clearly the NCAA system is not consistent and fair but why should we be surprised. It is the NCAA after all.
Sang is indeed Kurgat's sister, this is a fact. You could look at any picture of them running side by side from Saturday and see they are almost identical.
Charlotte Taylor's situation most likely goes like this: Her 5 year clock started when she first enrolled full time in university in England. Degrees there are 3 years so she graduated and came to the US. She competed for 2 years in the US, which completes her 5 year clock. Likely, she competed at some point in an international competition for her home country. USF then applied for a waiver from the NCAA for that year of competition back since she represented her home country in an international competition. This can be done for ANYBODY who makes an international team (Americans as well). The NCAA then grants a 6th year of competition.
Should be a great battle next year for the National Championship. Oregon will add Murphy and Ejore to Rainsberger,Hull,Camela Benz,Burdon and New Mexico only losses one of it's top ? 5 Hoping Oregon would win the triple crown again this year oh well they will next year GO DUCKS
Murphy is a great trackster but I don't think you should get too excit d about her in xc...... look at her major xc meet history and you'll see why. I could be wrong and she is a great kid so it's ok if I am!