Why did he go to Michigan instead of Stanford or Oregon?
Why did he go to Michigan instead of Stanford or Oregon?
Daddy went to school there
Warhurst produced some good milers over the years
Michigan had this runner named Nick Willis at around the same time as Webb.
I think he did well.
Oregon was not very good at the time, and there are plenty of other good reasons not to go to Oregon.
Webb was not cut out for that type of training. Should have gone somewhere more like home.
Star wrote:
Michigan had this runner named Nick Willis at around the same time as Webb.
I think he did well.
They had another guy called Nate Brannen. Never ran a step faster over 800m than he did in High school.
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true but wrote:
Star wrote:
Michigan had this runner named Nick Willis at around the same time as Webb.
I think he did well.
They had another guy called Nate Brannen. Never ran a step faster over 800m than he did in High school.
Who cares, he was a good miler.
Hall went to Stanford and Ritz went to Colorado
From the Flotrack video above:
"On May 27th 2001, Alan Webb shattered Jim Ryun's 35 year-old junior mile record run."
That's wrong. Ryun still has the American junior mile record at 3:51.3.
no one cares wrote:
true but wrote:
They had another guy called Nate Brannen. Never ran a step faster over 800m than he did in High school.
Who cares, he was a good miler.
He would have been great if he brought his 800 time down.
Webb?
Good question! Reading that book about Webb's year at Michigan it is crystal clear that he was simply not suited to Warhurst's training and general approach to running. So very different to what he was used to. Surely someone in Webb's position would ask a lot of questions about the sort of training he would be expected to do before he agrees to attend a University?
No criticism of Warhurst or Webb intended here - some athletes are simply not suited to some coaches/methods.
Nate coulda been great wrote:
no one cares wrote:
Who cares, he was a good miler.
He would have been great if he brought his 800 time down.
He would have been greatly mediocre at both instead of a successful miler.
no one cares wrote:
Nate coulda been great wrote:
He would have been great if he brought his 800 time down.
He would have been greatly mediocre at both instead of a successful miler.
Um, no. The 800 was potentially his better event.
Razcko sabotaged the training by putting doubt into Alan. I read the book years ago and went to a clinic that year and Razcko mentioned he didn't understand why Michigan was doing a particular ladder. HE felt they should have gone 12-8-4-2 but Michigan's ladder went 2-4-8-12. You can't second guess another coach to his athlete.
milermb wrote:
Good question! Reading that book about Webb's year at Michigan it is crystal clear that he was simply not suited to Warhurst's training and general approach to running. So very different to what he was used to. Surely someone in Webb's position would ask a lot of questions about the sort of training he would be expected to do before he agrees to attend a University?
No criticism of Warhurst or Webb intended here - some athletes are simply not suited to some coaches/methods.
Because surely no professional runner has ever changed their training style from what they did in high school.
coach wrote:
Razcko sabotaged the training by putting doubt into Alan. I read the book years ago and went to a clinic that year and Razcko mentioned he didn't understand why Michigan was doing a particular ladder. HE felt they should have gone 12-8-4-2 but Michigan's ladder went 2-4-8-12. You can't second guess another coach to his athlete.
Yeah, I guess that reversed ladder was what destroyed Webb´s career.
This is just one example of Razcko's interference, his refusal to let go and his second guessing of Webb's training at Michigan. Doubt kills athletes as does a former coach's ego.