I dont know what you're talking about. With level 2 of either you'll get good clinicians for 5 straight days plus other well intentioned coaches eager to learn. I did level 2 in both, usatf 20 years ago and ustfccca a few years ago. I enjoyed both. If you want to coach in college you might want to find out which certification they prefer, if you just want to learn pick the clinicians, times and site that suits your needs. I lean toward ustfccca because it was founded by and for coaches.
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Both are AWFUL.
If you know nothing about track & field then I can see USATF Level 1 being helpful, but any of the education beyond that is a joke.
They do more harm than good in my opinion. It is just something you can put on your resume, since some people see value in these certifications.
If you are hoping to truly learn valuable information, I advise you don't attend either of these and find a good clinic or speaker or just find a really good coach and pick their brain.
If you want to coach US National teams. Example: The Junior Women's Throws at the World Champs. Take these courses every summer, and get up to level 3, and you will be among the group selected to coach at those events. You can have nice certifications on your office wall.
If you want to be a college coach, rise among the ranks of your peers, and earn lifetime achievement awards by the USTFCCCA, then these are the certs to get. Also good if you plan on being a general worker for 15+ years and want to kiss the behind of the Director of Track/ XC at a D-1 school.
Lydiard, Bowerman, Igloi, etc never had certs like the above branches have today. Heck, I doubt Vigil and Larson have certs. Most of the best coaches are D-2 + D-3 (sometimes NAIA + D1) coaches who have to take the time to develop the moderate talent that they have with the limited resources.
Bottom line in today's NCAA/ High School world, better get 1-2 certs to stay relevant and make it look like you know what you're doing, even if you don't. Go with whichever one your institution will pay for, and whichever one is closest to your home.
In the olden days people became experts by being apprentices.
coach wrote:Nowadays we need universities, certifications and grad school, that's just the way it is. I'll admit that the best coaches I know don't have these certifications but learning is always helpful. Level 2 is a boot camp worthwhile for networking as well as getting any question you might have answered.