The average male can easily run a sub 30 200

I agree.

This only proves what everybody already knows - D2 sucks!

A smart man challenges people at his own specialty.

I don't know about any average male getting that far under 30 seconds, but 29-30 seconds shouldn't be hard for anyone who is not overweight or old. I think that genetics comes into play once you get into the 27 and below category. I'd say that a fair amount amount of males couldn't run faster than 28 flat, even with substantial training.

Someone who runs 27 flat all out can not "easily" run sub 30. A good deal of effort would be necessary to run that close to top end.

I could run 23 flat at my fittest, but I wouldn't have been able to run 26 flat without effort.

0/10 and I call it BS

I could believe the story of 200 somehow, but come on 400 in 55 with negative splits for couch potato and 13.9 100 for 230 lbs guy... lol...

Im an endurance type guy and I think my times are decent vs general population (69 HM, 32:xx 10k, 15:xx 5k). I have never had any problems to outrun any sedentary person BUT my 400 pb is extremely slow compared to your work colleagues, only 61sec...

Mo sucks at the 100 wrote:

A smart man challenges people at his own specialty.

Good luck trying to find anyone willing to run (much less race) an 800, 1500, or mile.

One of my buddies wanted to grab some snacks at the local convenience store, and he insisted on driving even though it was less than a quarter mile away.

This holiday season, visit your local mall and observe the cars in the parking lot. You'd be surprised to see how many cars wait or aimlessly circle the area just in front of the mall even though there's plenty of parking a hundred yards away.

hard truth wrote:

400m: This guy was a tall, lean dude who played ultimate frisbee and basketball a few times a week.

yousaywhat wrote:

400 in 55 with negative splits for couch potato

Couch potato? I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

d2 truth wrote:

This only proves what everybody already knows - D2 sucks!

If D2 sucks, then D3 blows!

lollerama wrote:

I think that genetics comes into play once you get into the 27 and below category. I'd say that a fair amount of males couldn't run faster than 28 flat, even with substantial training.

Genetics plays a big role in sprint speed, but I think the cutoff is around 26 flat. 28 is slow. I doubt a fair amount of trained males would be slower than an average high school girl sprinter.

I don't know if it's a "hard truth". A lot of us ended up being distance runners because we weren't very quick over short distances. Running a 55 quarter off of practically nothing is fairly impressive, though.

Lol you're an idiot if you think playing ultimate frisbee makes you a couch potato. If you've ever played it at a decent level, you'd know its a damn good workout. I haven't ran anything more than 10 miles in close to two years, probably maxed out 25-35 miles a week from just joining friends on random runs. I play Ultimate Frisbee at the club level in college and I can still drop a sub-60 almost any day I feel like it. Can still run a sub-5 with some effort. Beyond that I'd probably go to shite

My roommate for the latter half of college was a runner who got cut from the track team and took up ultimate frisbee. By our senior year he was one of the captains and had them doing track workouts twice a week in addition to normal practice. He had them do time trials at the end of fall, and I remember being impressed by how fast some of the guys were.

With that said, I don't think the results were nearly as good as what this guy is claiming random coworkers ran. They ran a 40, 100m, and 400m. I don't remember what the 40 times where, but there were a few guys under 14 and one under 13s in the 100, and maybe 5 or so under 60 in 400. Still, the winning 400 time was only something like 55/56 and well over half of them finished 10+ seconds back.

And these were fit guys in college playing ultimate several times a week and doing running specific workouts for a couple months. A lot of guys can get under 15s in a 100 but just don't have the endurance for another 100m at that pace.

not without effort wrote:

Someone who runs 27 flat all out can not "easily" run sub 30. A good deal of effort would be necessary to run that close to top end.

I think that depends on whether the 27 flat person is an endurance guy or a speed guy.

YMMV! wrote:

not without effort wrote:

Someone who runs 27 flat all out can not "easily" run sub 30. A good deal of effort would be necessary to run that close to top end.

I think that depends on whether the 27 flat person is an endurance guy or a speed guy.

No. If your 200m PR is 27 flat, you cannot run 30 flat literally "without effort" (i.e. easily). Even if that time is very attainable, it will still require some effort.

People who challenge you to a race know that they are faster than most people. Average men can not easily run a sub 30 200.

so you're claiming to be an 800/1500 guy who was quite decent but you're saying a 65 sec 400m is quite fast? wut

To the "average" person, 200 meters is practically a mid-distance race. Even if they have some fast twitch ability they are fading hard after 100m.

Sub 30 200m is probably what, 63-65s 400 for a relatively untrained person?

Yea that seems reasonable for the typical, somewhat athletic person that isn't horribly out of shape. Couch potato lifestyle and weight can easily wreck that. People totally lose their ability to move. So, if your post said HS/College male, then I might agree. I think close to half could run around 30 flat. 27 or 28...no way.

By the time you get to someones 30s, I'd honestly be suprised if 10% could go out and break 30. Usually too much sitting and sedentary lifestyle by that point to have the same motion you had as a younger person without a lot of work to get it back.

As counterexamples, I literally have a friend that can't break 17s 100m with a flying start. His top end speed sprinting at a police ticker sign is 14mph. Just an awkward, gangly style and doesn't really know how to move. He's an extreme example, but I definitely have other friends that are similar. 30 would be VERY hard for them.

hard truth wrote:

I'm a former D2 800/1500 guy

as distance runners, we mostly neglect our speed, so even a 65 second 400 seems quite fast.

nice try