Claudia MF Lane

Katelyn Tuohy??? Beat Kelsey chmiel (4th nxn 2015 5th 2016) by 40 seconds in NY state meet with atrocious conditions and still broke the course record by 15+ even though the course was running nearly a minute slower than the day the old course record was set. 167 speed rating.

elihu wrote:

15:49 at CIF Southern Section Prelims today to break her course record (flat 3.0 miles in Riverside) by 41 seconds, running solo from the gun. Finished and looked like she could have conducted an interview right there on the spot. Amazing talent, very cool to witness, but I am sure there is some girl from your loser state who is actually way more impressive.

What an awesome result. I'm looking forward to see her at Nationals.

Is she not capable of racing at less than 100% effort? She's on pace for 10 all-out races in 67 days and the real tragedy is every single race will be a time trial for her, just like it's been for Katelyn Tuohy. So here we have the two best girls in the US and neither will have gotten a single bit of race experience the whole season. It's unfortunate these two can't race with the boys at invitationals.

Oct 4 - won by 2:44

Oct 12 - won by 2:19

Oct 21 - won by :53

Oct 27 - won by 1:21

Nov 2 - won by 2:26

Nov 11 - won by 1:48

Nov 18 - will win big again at CIF Finals

Nov 25 - will set a new CR at State meet

Dec 2 - Foot Locker West

Dec 9 - Foot Locker Nationals

The only race she has run full tilt is the Mt Sac. race on 10/1 . Just because a time is fast and she demolishes the competition, doesn't mean she is all out.

Sorry, I mean't 10/21. She will run 2 more races full out: The CIF State and the Footlocker Championships. (though the SS Finals and Footlocker West will still be fast).

bbgttt wrote:

The only race she has run full tilt is the Mt Sac. race on 10/21 . Just because a time is fast and she demolishes the competition, doesn't mean she is all out.

What's the difference between fast and full out?

Interestingly, her only full out race so far had the smallest winning margin.

I'm confused. Arent southern section prelims held at Mt SAC?

bbgttt wrote:

The only race she has run full tilt is the Mt Sac. race on 10/1 . Just because a time is fast and she demolishes the competition, doesn't mean she is all out.

That may be the plan, but looking at it from the outside that doesn't seem to be the case. Take a look at her time differential on the same courses this year versus last year.

-38 seconds: Twilight Inv 2017 v 2016

-38 seconds: League Meet #2 2017 v 2016

-43 seconds: Mt SAC 2017 v 2016 (-17 course about 5-10 seconds faster due to course change)

-42 seconds: Ventura County Champs 2017 v 2016

-44 seconds: League Finals 2017 v 2016

-62 seconds: CIF Prelims 2017 v 2016 (went easier at CIF Prelims last year)

-40 seconds: CIF Prelims 2017 v CIF Finals 2016 (prelims and finals use same course)

As you can see, there is nothing to indicate she is racing at anything but 100% every time out, with the exception being CIF Prelims in 2016. She has one speed and that is full blast.

She is on pace to break both the Woodward Park (CA state meet) and Balboa Park (FLN) records by a substantial margin.

Katelyn Tuohy and her coach should seriously reconsider racing FLN. It would potentially be the greatest female high school head-to-head battle of all-time.

not for the last 3 years. somehow the folks in Riverside used the construction as Mt. SAC as an excuse to get the race moved there and there it remains.

elihu wrote:

not for the last 3 years. somehow the folks in Riverside used the construction as Mt. SAC as an excuse to get the race moved there and there it remains.

I had no idea. Are CIF Finals held there too?

I had no idea. Are CIF Finals held there too?

Yes, Southern Section Finals will be held there next week. It's really too bad, the site has improved a bit versus first year and the races are well run but the course is just plain boring. It was initially presented as a temporary move, but I have not heard any rumblings of when we will be returning to Walnut

Elly Who? wrote:

Katelyn Tuohy and her coach should seriously reconsider racing FLN. It would potentially be the greatest female high school head-to-head battle of all-time.

There's no upside for them to run there and get beat.

Would be nice but no chance ` wrote:

Elly Who? wrote:

Katelyn Tuohy and her coach should seriously reconsider racing FLN. It would potentially be the greatest female high school head-to-head battle of all-time.

There's no upside for them to run there and get beat.

It sounds like you have forgotten, as have they, that competition has no value if there is no chance of defeat. Sending these girls off to have glorified victory parades does nothing of value for them and in fact is a great disservice as they are being taught how easy life can be if they don't face their fears.

This is not how champions are raised.

Elly Who? wrote:

It sounds like you have forgotten, as have they, that competition has no value if there is no chance of defeat. Sending these girls off to have glorified victory parades does nothing of value for them and in fact is a great disservice as they are being taught how easy life can be if they don't face their fears.

This is not how champions are raised.

That's why I said that it would be nice.

That's okay though. We'll get to see both of them run, and I'm sure they'll both do quite well.

Would be nice but no chance ` wrote:

Elly Who? wrote:

It sounds like you have forgotten, as have they, that competition has no value if there is no chance of defeat. Sending these girls off to have glorified victory parades does nothing of value for them and in fact is a great disservice as they are being taught how easy life can be if they don't face their fears.

This is not how champions are raised.

That's why I said that it would be nice.

That's okay though. We'll get to see both of them run, and I'm sure they'll both do quite well.

Missed your username. I agree there seems to be no chance at this point. I wonder if it’s the girls making the decision to avoid one another or their handlers.

Then don't look at it from the outside then.

I am guessing they are both eyeing Edinburgh. We will see them race then.

Elly Who? wrote:

I wonder if it’s the girls making the decision to avoid one another or their handlers.

I'm sure both Lane and her coaches are entirely focused on footlocker nationals.

Tuohy has been nurtured in a totally team atmosphere, and probably wants to run with her team, though

she'll miss out running the footlocker meet. I don't know, Too bad she can't run both of them, like it used to be.

Flotrack/Milesplit could learn a thing or two from these guys. Really gives a perspective on how much of a gap she forms during races.