Loudoun Valley Boys SWEEP Virginia State Championships

That's a great way to do it wrote:

gahuga wrote:

I live in a different state now, which uses a different classification scheme for every sport. Football has the seven classes, other team sports tend to have three or four, while XC/track only have two. A few sports are just a single-class free-for-all. It's an interesting system, though some sports cry out for more classes than they currently use.

What state is that?

Sounds like Ohio

Jacob McLeod ran a course record of 15:51 there this year, he was 15th at footlocker last year and has already beat Sam Afolder, and you think Sam would have ran 15:36 on that course? lol

GA runner wrote:

VA Coach wrote:

According to the course comparison chart, you would need to add about 16 seconds to the VA state course times to compare to the GA state course. So, that would mean that the LV boys top 5 would have run between 15:36 and 16:21 on the GA course. The Milton top 5 ran 15:58 to 17:11. Not to mention that the VA course ran slow on Friday when LV raced, due to high winds. I have no idea what the conditions were at the GA state meet.

Regardless, it looks like GA is developing some distance talent in a state not much known for their distance running, and that is good to see!

Jacob McLeod ran a course record of 15:51 there this year, he was 15th at footlocker last year and has already beat Sam Afolder, and you think Sam would have ran 15:36 on that course? lol

Great American Jacob easily beat Sam by 10 seconds yep

The 7A state race was ran at 12 when it was upper 70s and high humidity, much worse conditions than when Jacob ran 15:51 and the times were much slower than usual. They had their worst day by far and were still impressive. Also their number 4 had a breakout race so if their 3 and 5 are healthy they could surprise people.

People keep bringing up the same thing every thread about Loudoun Valley, at this point it is what it is. No one broke any rules and those kids are going to be on the roster come NXR so people are going to have to deal with it. They also were going to win states regardless, the difference the transfers make is taking them from a team that should be contending to go to nationals and instead making them a team contending to win nationals.

They ran one heck of a race on Friday. Whether you were impressed by the times or not the fact remains that they still had 5 guys all show up and not get beat by anyone. Even for a good team that still takes plenty of things going right for it to work out perfectly like that.

The bigger concern going forward for them should be the gap that is developing between their 2 and 3 runners. Now this could be a by product of Affolder being a complete stud and Morris also being a very good runner and they are both just really firing on all cylinders. But if they show up at NXR and have around 40 seconds between 2 and 3 that could spell trouble against a team like Green Hope. I'd say right now they are in the driver seat for an auto bid but the SE is a little deeper this year and they need to get it right in a few weeks otherwise they could find themselves hoping for an at large bid.

Also to all the people posting about Virginia itself, I couldn't agree more that 6 classifications is way too many and it is a stupid venue for the state meet where you can't cheer for the runners all over the course. Virginia has too many people who get caught up in "this is the way we have always done it" mentalities and it hurts the sport. I believe that is a big reason why they keep running on the abomination of a xc course that is burke lake and having states where they have it.

GA wrote:

The 7A state race was ran at 12 when it was upper 70s and high humidity, much worse conditions than when Jacob ran 15:51 and the times were much slower than usual. They had their worst day by far and were still impressive. Also their number 4 had a breakout race so if their 3 and 5 are healthy they could surprise people.

they are healthy just had a bad day

and yeah conditions were pretty rough, my main point was how these fools think that Sam or anyone from VA could run sub 16 on that course let alone 15:35

they'll see what GA is about in 2 weeks though, guarantee that Milton will put their top2 in front of Loudoun Valley's

you better hope so because with Loudoun Valleys depth and the time after Miltons top two it could be a tough go of things. It looks like most of Milton's PRs for the season came in early September or late August so hopefully they still have some gas in the tank for the big show.

Watch out for Brentwood.

9:08

9:10

9:32

9:48

9:49

First race in six weeks.

That is why it is called states and not the state meet.

same old thing again and again wrote:

you better hope so because with Loudoun Valleys depth and the time after Miltons top two it could be a tough go of things. It looks like most of Milton's PRs for the season came in early September or late August so hopefully they still have some gas in the tank for the big show.

they skipped their meet of champions race last week, they've been taking it easy, had the best 1-2 ever on the state meet course and would have easily broke the team time and points record if their number 3 didn't have a bad day

and to the person who mentioned brentwood, Milton beat them by like 150 points when they raced

also, loving the back and forth here between the states here on this board, keep it up makes the sport better

Local story on LV race:

http://www.runwashington.com/2017/11/12/vaboys17/

Gotta bee wrote:

and to the person who mentioned brentwood, Milton beat them by like 150 points when they raced

Milton beat Brentwood Academy, not Brentwood HS. After the big uproar over the summer, the Brentwood guys didn’t run for the high school but instead ran for their club. Last race I know of was Adidas in Raleigh in early September. The club guys ran a Hoka TT on Saturday, and it looks like it wasn’t all out, given that Hasty has run much faster before, as has Thompson. Maybe they’re good at NXN, maybe not, but you better watch out for them. Hasty will win whichever race he enters.

I'm literally a big fan of Loudoun Valley. I'll be watching them races till I'm an old woman, and can't run anymore myself. I often try and imagine myself as a Mike Mahon type of person, when I watch them races. I support them the most, out of all the teams in Nationals literally. I wish I had gone to that school. I don't know how I made state, looking at the terrible school I was with. I imagine if Bekele moved literally to the USA when he was a kid, head have run in Loudoun Valley, I can imagine he will have at least

i thought they were not running for their high school?

is hastey confirmed to be going to nxr still and not footlocker?

Fly Bravery wrote:

Gotta bee wrote:

and to the person who mentioned brentwood, Milton beat them by like 150 points when they raced

Milton beat Brentwood Academy, not Brentwood HS. After the big uproar over the summer, the Brentwood guys didn’t run for the high school but instead ran for their club. Last race I know of was Adidas in Raleigh in early September. The club guys ran a Hoka TT on Saturday, and it looks like it wasn’t all out, given that Hasty has run much faster before, as has Thompson. Maybe they’re good at NXN, maybe not, but you better watch out for them. Hasty will win whichever race he enters.

my bad, assumed it was the one that was competing though we were talking about

should be a good regional though, south is very good team wise this year would be amazing if they got a wild card

You think that's bad? Come on down to Georgia where classifications go up to 7A and 1A is split into public and private. 16 races...

I believe you only have to be ELIGIBLE to run at your school in order to compete at NXN.

My, how LV has changed since I was a captain there! My entire four seasons we never had a single runner break 16. Now it seems everyone does it!

The change of coach was clearly the reason why. We only ran at most 30mpw with my coach, which I had to supplement a lot on my own.