Wisconsin Badgers Downfall?

It's comments like that have caused kids to leave.

Do you really think every All-American at Wisconsin and other D1 programs are all nerdy saints?

I never said there was necessarily anything wrong with that. I was just stating that you can’t necessarily blame the coach for a kid not running well, in his first year there no less, when the kid wasn’t doing everything in his power to be great.

Wisco_n_trouble wrote:

One more example of this disaster. Addison Dehaven who went to Wisco but was run into the ground and injured, transferred to Boise and was All American yesterday. Have seen a Cory Immels at Boise pick up a couple guys that were run into the ground by other programs and rehab them into successful D1 runners. Wisco could use more of that coaching philosophy.

Yes. Coach Immels is good at coaching "individuals".

An example is how he changed Allie Ostrander's training. She was hurt more than once using the high mileage approach so now runs less. She became a National Champ in the steeple. A successful 4th place finish in XC.

Immels did a good job reading Peloquin last year and trained her differently than the other girls. 6th last year.

I wish Cory Immels would come to Wisco for the men.

"do it or die" leads to injuries.

How many All Americans this year for the men?

Mick's current excuse: Running hard at Big Tens and the NCAA Great Lakes Regionals made them too tired. Of course no other team in the nation had to deal with this, just the Badgers.

I thought it was his job to make sure this type of problem did not happen.

Jerry Shoemaker wrote:

Mick's current excuse: Running hard at Big Tens and the NCAA Great Lakes Regionals made them too tired. Of course no other team in the nation had to deal with this, just the Badgers.

I thought it was his job to make sure this type of problem did not happen.

Was this only a guys' problem, or was he also being critical of the girls for ONLY beating their ranking by SEVEN spots?

Two Wisco runners beat Michigan's Ben Flangan at Big Tens. Ben Flanagan finished in twentieth place at Nationals.

What the HECK is going on.

Badger Badger Badger Badger wrote:

Jerry Shoemaker wrote:

Mick's current excuse: Running hard at Big Tens and the NCAA Great Lakes Regionals made them too tired. Of course no other team in the nation had to deal with this, just the Badgers.

I thought it was his job to make sure this type of problem did not happen.

Was this only a guys' problem, or was he also being critical of the girls for ONLY beating their ranking by SEVEN spots?

News Allert: Mick does NOT coach the womans team. So thankful.

What the heck happened to Hoare at Nationals anyway? Started out in the chase pack, but finished 185th. Was he sick? Did he roll an ankle or get spiked? Was it just poor racing strategy--out too fast and blew up? His last 2K was a full minute slower than his first 2K.

His splits:

2K | 5:43.9 (26)

4K | 11:48.4 (38)

8K | 24:43.0

10K | 31:27.6 (185)

badjer baby wrote:

What the heck happened to Hoare at Nationals anyway? Started out in the chase pack, but finished 185th. Was he sick? Did he roll an ankle or get spiked? Was it just poor racing strategy--out too fast and blew up? His last 2K was a full minute slower than his first 2K.

His splits:

2K | 5:43.9 (26)

4K | 11:48.4 (38)

8K | 24:43.0

10K | 31:27.6 (185)

Same thing happened to Hoare at the Nutty Wisco Invite. Mick should have warned him not to do this again.

Jerry Shoemaker wrote:

badjer baby wrote:

What the heck happened to Hoare at Nationals anyway? Started out in the chase pack, but finished 185th. Was he sick? Did he roll an ankle or get spiked? Was it just poor racing strategy--out too fast and blew up? His last 2K was a full minute slower than his first 2K.

His splits:

2K | 5:43.9 (26)

4K | 11:48.4 (38)

8K | 24:43.0

10K | 31:27.6 (185)

Same thing happened to Hoare at the Nutty Wisco Invite. Mick should have warned him not to do this again.

But I have to say that Oliver Hoare's personal efforts made the part of the xc season great. Big Ten Champ.

Remember this thread?

They will win Big10 and finish 5th at Nationals.

Badgers bite wrote:

They will win Big10 and finish 5th at Nationals.

There should be no down periods for a program like Wisconsin that seemingly put most of their eggs into the cross country basket. Perhaps automatically redshirting incoming freshman is why the Wisconsin nightlife claims them? Maybe Mick should learn to coach some of these people. I know this party excuse is already ready for Finn Gessner and Hirsch who are bioth running terrible.

Ihmels coaches this program to top 5 EVERY year.

Women's team rocking because Mick has zero contact.

I’ve yet to see anyone state anything bad about the women’s team. Yes, they have great individuals up front, but if you look at the size of their team and the talent they get, they have zero depth. After the 4th runner, no one from Wisconsin’s women’s team is even decent. To me, this signifies that Jill Miller is perhaps not a great coach either. The other runners on the women’s team are not really improving at all, or get hurt. This makes the women’s team essentially equivalent to the men’s team.

Lol so much hate in this thread. Losers. All of you.

The Starved Elephant wrote:

Lol so much hate in this thread. Losers. All of you.

Half these posts are probably by zen miler from tracktalk

Funny enough, the two men's teams that get sh!t on the most here from the Great Lakes region just went 1-2.

badgah wrote:

Funny enough, the two men's teams that get sh!t on the most here from the Great Lakes region just went 1-2.

Since when have we been sh!tting on Notre Dame?

The Starved Elephant wrote:

badgah wrote:

Funny enough, the two men's teams that get sh!t on the most here from the Great Lakes region just went 1-2.

Since when have we been sh!tting on Notre Dame?

Referring to this thread: