any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
shoebum wrote:
any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
You can get a world class coach that coach you individualized weekly for 50 dollars a month.
It helps if you're struck for time and want somebody else, potentially more experienced than you, creating the training plans.
If you actually enjoy the experience of creating a training plan, and enjoy experimenting and researching, then continue coaching yourself.
I've come off a few years of very fortunately having great marathoners coaching me (2:10-17). But now I'm in a phase of enjoying doing my own coaching.
shoebum wrote:
any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
It really helped me dramatically to improve from 2:40 down to 2: 27:30 at marathon. That coach know what to do.
Live to run wrote:
It helps if you're struck for time and want somebody else, potentially more experienced than you, creating the training plans.
If you actually enjoy the experience of creating a training plan, and enjoy experimenting and researching, then continue coaching yourself.
I've come off a few years of very fortunately having great marathoners coaching me (2:10-17). But now I'm in a phase of enjoying doing my own coaching.
Why try to invent the wheel once more when one can just follow superior experienced coaching for best result?
HJ's are usually self-coached. There's enough valuable info in RW articles to provide sound training guidelines...who would have thought.
Norwegian ace wrote:
shoebum wrote:any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
It really helped me dramatically to improve from 2:40 down to 2: 27:30 at marathon. That coach know what to do.
How's life on the north pole?
I think personalized coaching can add a lot of value, but you should really take some time to educate yourself about training methods first. You can get 80-90% of your potential improvement by reading some of the most renowned coaches and implementing the common themes. Doing that will also make any coaching relationship that you enter into a much more productive relationship.
From what I've seen, group coaching with a local running club can be pretty cheap - $100/extended training cycle. Personalized, but remote, coaching tends to run in the $100-$150/month range.
Smoove wrote:
I think personalized coaching can add a lot of value, but you should really take some time to educate yourself about training methods first. You can get 80-90% of your potential improvement by reading some of the most renowned coaches and implementing the common themes. Doing that will also make any coaching relationship that you enter into a much more productive relationship.
From what I've seen, group coaching with a local running club can be pretty cheap - $100/extended training cycle. Personalized, but remote, coaching tends to run in the $100-$150/month range.
Then 50/month for world class coaching and daily chatt looks to be
very fair ?
JS, the "chatt" typo is showing through across your multiple identities.
BUSTED!!
Muahahahhaha
shoebum wrote:
any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
I coached myself many years but when I finally decided to hire a pro coach my results got much better. It was 100/month and worth the money.
shoebum wrote:
any hobby joggers out there hire their own coach? if so, do you feel it helped and how much did it cost? i run with a coached group that provides training plans and weekly workouts, but not individualized.
I can recommend to hire a pro coach to get a very good individualized
program. Why waste time on figure out to do it the best way when there are pros out there with long experience? Why go threw trial and error when you dont have to?
Smoove wrote:
I think personalized coaching can add a lot of value, but you should really take some time to educate yourself about training methods first. You can get 80-90% of your potential improvement by reading some of the most renowned coaches and implementing the common themes. Doing that will also make any coaching relationship that you enter into a much more productive relationship.
From what I've seen, group coaching with a local running club can be pretty cheap - $100/extended training cycle. Personalized, but remote, coaching tends to run in the $100-$150/month range.
Is that face to face or online coaching?
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Smoove wrote:I think personalized coaching can add a lot of value, but you should really take some time to educate yourself about training methods first. You can get 80-90% of your potential improvement by reading some of the most renowned coaches and implementing the common themes. Doing that will also make any coaching relationship that you enter into a much more productive relationship.
From what I've seen, group coaching with a local running club can be pretty cheap - $100/extended training cycle. Personalized, but remote, coaching tends to run in the $100-$150/month range.
Is that face to face or online coaching?
How can group coaching with a local running club be online coaching? Makes no sense. Must be face to face I think.
The $100-$150/month for 1 on 1 online coaching is what I commonly saw when researching this for my own coaching business (I decided to go on the lower end of that).
My local running store has a good group running program. They offer 10 week programs for $70 ($85 for first timers). As long as the coach knows what he or she is doing, I think this is a better option for most people than remote coaching, unless you're looking for help for a specific goal race since these are set up with our local races in mind, or looking for more help than just the two workout days per week.
Here's a link to their training page to give a sense of how at least one quality program is administered.
Smoove wrote:
The $100-$150/month for 1 on 1 online coaching is what I commonly saw when researching this for my own coaching business (I decided to go on the lower end of that).
My local running store has a good group running program. They offer 10 week programs for $70 ($85 for first timers). As long as the coach knows what he or she is doing, I think this is a better option for most people than remote coaching, unless you're looking for help for a specific goal race since these are set up with our local races in mind, or looking for more help than just the two workout days per week.
Here's a link to their training page to give a sense of how at least one quality program is administered.
http://www.trackshack.com/page/53
But then 50 per month sounds very good when you get something much
better and individualized? Weekly coaching and chat every day with the coach if you want to?
There is value to be added by individual coaching for sure, JS.
But for the people in my area who are focusing on our local race series, the group program is a pretty good fit.
There is a ton of value to be derived from having a group to train with and all of you doing the same workout; particularly if the workouts are designed for the runner's race schedule (you're more likely to show up, you have someone to push you, the coach can give you feedback in real time if you are having an off day or the weather is bad).
If they are poorly designed workouts, doing them with a group doesn't make them any better and you'd probably be better off with remote coaching.
If they are workouts designed for an October 5k and you are running a December half marathon, you'd probably be better off with remote coaching.
Look, there are a ton of people out there to be coached. No need to try to make believe that remote coaching is the best alternative for every runner.
Time wheel wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:Is that face to face or online coaching?
How can group coaching with a local running club be online coaching? Makes no sense. Must be face to face I think.
Misread that.
You be better off with group coaching in person than remote 'coaching' supposedly individually -just buy a book
Like I alluded to, self curiosity.
Also your analogy is a bit off. There are many different types of wheels. On that note, I could never find a coach who would emphasize phases, and more specifically a base phase. Which is what I'm experimenting with now.