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I kicked my top two boys off yesterday. Lets see if I have to resign lol.
Citius5000 wrote:
I kicked my top two boys off yesterday. Lets see if I have to resign lol.
May we ask what was their crime/infraction? (I understand if you have to be vague to protect your identity or those of the minors.)
A few years ago, I've tried to kick three kids off the team & was not allowed to do it. (One the kids was related to administration.)
Pappy wrote:
Why did the kid quit in the first place? Was he being hazed/bullied, were his grades bad, did he have issues in his personal life, home or at school? Was the coach last year making an example out of him? Maybe he was selfish.
With less than half the story we cannot just say it is the kids fault and that he is a quitter. Maybe there is something more. The kid said "nothing has changed" maybe that should be reworded to "None of your business" That is what I'd give my HS track coach. I did not like or trust the guy.
The coach quitting is just odd. What kind of example does that give the team. After 30 years the coach doesn't get his way and throws in the towel. Strange.
The coach was a bully, and the kids are glad that he left.
You don't quit once the season has started. I am just a volunteer coach and I would not do that, even with a rotten administration and several kids who I am less than impressed with. That's my situation now and I won't be a baby about it. That would not meet proper role model criteria for the kids on the team and would also set bad example for my own children at home.
This coach likely wanted to dump on some people and found a convenient time for himself to do it.
I kicked a senior off the team for missing too many practices. I gave him 1 final chance and told him if he misses another practice he's off the team. Well he missed spring break practice because he didn't know. I kicked him off then he complained to the AD. AD asked to give him one more chance then I told him how I had already given him several chances and missing spring break practice was the end. I said that wouldn't happen if he was on the football, basketball, baseball team. AD agreed and backed me up.
Met with AD and kid and explained he missed too much. That wouldn't happen on the other teams and honestly I didn't think he would care about being kicked off since he missed so many practices.
Coach sounds like A-hole wrote:
Simsbury's athletic director Jeff Pinney was shocked by the resignation."His decision to resign was a surprise. It was his decision to make."
Pinney said Cohen never voiced his concerns about what had existed previously with the athlete.
"None of coach Cohen's concerns were brought to our attention before this season, We did our best to support him. We told him, 'Here's how we would like to support you and address any concerns you have,' but unfortunately, that was not able to happen."
If there was legitimate concern, why would the coach not state what it was?
Apparently he was just an extreme control freak, and that was not good for the kids.
Rubbish,. The fact that the AD suggested he ask the kid what has changed, is evidence that he knew the history - and agreed with the kid being booted. However he didn't expect the Coach to have principles.
Good on the coach.The shame is that they will ose a principled coach, and this kid will move on or graduate, and they'll be down a long term school asset.
Yes, they lost a principled coach, not necessarily a good coach.
What does quitting say to the team? Something you want to teach your athletes?
arthur bowerman wrote:
Yes, they lost a principled coach, not necessarily a good coach.
What does quitting say to the team? Something you want to teach your athletes?
It says that when your boss is trying to make you go against your principles, sometimes it's best to move on.
one possibility wrote:
arthur bowerman wrote:Yes, they lost a principled coach, not necessarily a good coach.
What does quitting say to the team? Something you want to teach your athletes?
It says that when your boss is trying to make you go against your principles, sometimes it's best to move on.
What is more important? Disagreeing with your boss or the 50 athletes you coach?
Seems pretty easy, big Mike wanted to make it about him, not the kids.
Good riddance.
But WHATSOEVER IS A SIMS BERRRY?!?!?!?!?!
Peter Budaj wrote:
But WHATSOEVER IS A SIMS BERRRY?!?!?!?!?!
Not sure, but it obviously makes you fat!
Once a coach wrote:
I kicked a senior off the team for missing too many practices. I gave him 1 final chance and told him if he misses another practice he's off the team. Well he missed spring break practice because he didn't know. I kicked him off then he complained to the AD. AD asked to give him one more chance then I told him how I had already given him several chances and missing spring break practice was the end. I said that wouldn't happen if he was on the football, basketball, baseball team. AD agreed and backed me up.
Met with AD and kid and explained he missed too much. That wouldn't happen on the other teams and honestly I didn't think he would care about being kicked off since he missed so many practices.
Good point. Would this same scenario occur (all things being equal) if this was a Texas high profile football team?
arthur bowerman wrote:
Yes, they lost a principled coach, not necessarily a good coach.
What does quitting say to the team? Something you want to teach your athletes?
At least the kid came back. The coach is a moron.
My DSA (director of student activities) as well as principal stood by me when I did not keep my #7 on the post-season team due to behavior issues during the season.
Kid's parents were relentless in trying to get their kid reinstated
Good conclusion. It's about the kids, not the coach. I can imagine in my mind how the coach approached the kid and in his 'tone' asking, "okay, what's changed with you?"
Kids run the brutal sport of cross country for a variety of reasons. If this kid wants to run, jog, whatever, let him.
Let the coach start his own club team and he can run it exactly how he wants to run it.
This is the disconnect between coaches and parents. Parents don't care about the culture of your team or what message is sent by allowing kids to come and go as they please. All they know is that they paid the money so their kid should run. Parents also complain about whos running what events or why their kid isnt running instead of another kid etc.
Mark Boen wrote:
Good conclusion. It's about the kids, not the coach. I can imagine in my mind how the coach approached the kid and in his 'tone' asking, "okay, what's changed with you?"
Kids run the brutal sport of cross country for a variety of reasons. If this kid wants to run, jog, whatever, let him.
Let the coach start his own club team and he can run it exactly how he wants to run it.
Guess you never coached high school sports, eh?
If so, I oh-so appreciate your altruistic approach to coaching!
If not, it's a tough gig! (I've coached & it's fun & exhilarating, but also scary & time-consuming.) Without hyperbole, any practice (or season) could go wrong & you will be the scapegoat...all for less than minimum wage!
I've had a strong desire to get back into coaching HS. I coached while I was in college and a few years after and it was really rewarding. I have remained in contact with a number of my former athletes, some still seek my advice...
But every time I start to venture back, I read stories like this and think my time could be better spent doing just about anything.
I don't want to turn this into a " these kids today.." rant but sports are very different now. I admire the coaches that put up with it.
High School AD wrote:
alanson wrote:If you've got a valued 68 year old employee who's still putting out a solid product, you'd better recognize he doesn't work for you or your institution. You work for him. If you don't understand that, odds are he'll soon drive home the point.
That coach will not be able to be replaced. AD made his own life a lot tougher than it needs to be.
Naw, they'll hire some kid who was a former star runner and now a substitute teacher at a school in town who'll quit in a year or two when he gets married has a kid and realizes he can't support a family that way. No one will care or even notice.