Kipsang To Run NYC Marathon

I guess any sub 2:20 lifetime PR guy was put on the elite. He did a 2:17 back in 2011. I believe he is doing Marine corp which is the week before NYC. He just did some Gobi dessert death march. I respect that he likes to run and loves to race, but you think he would respect himself and the race a bit more by tapering a little bit and not running a marathon the week NYC. Not that he has a chance to contend, but it seems it would be a better performance and experience for him with a wee bit of a taper. I bet he does some 5 K the day before NYC

When he won NYC back in 2014, he ran 2:10:59, basically 2:11. The course record is 2:05, so maybe he will aim for that, but that will be really hard to get.

I can see him running 2:08, but since there is no one in the field who can challenge him, he might not really push it.

He broke the course record earlier this year in Tokyo, so if he were to break the course record in NYC, that would be mind blowing. That would definitely make him the best marathoner of the year over Geoffrey Kirui ( Boston and WC winner).

Both behind Kipchoge. Of course.

Time for Kamworor to make a statement !

GetRealDude wrote:

Both behind Kipchoge. Of course.

Hell no. I love Kipchoge, but Geff is definitely marathoner of the year right now, having won the boston marathon and the WC.

Kipchoge did a science project and had his hands full with a runner making his debut at the marathon level, and he only won because that runner was inexperienced with running the tangent. No way in hell is Kipchoge marathoner of the year.

If Kipsang wins NYC, and gets the course record, and on top of the course record he achieved in tokyo, then he will get marathoner of the year hands down. ...meaning the number 1 ranking!

Not IAAF, but Magazine runner of the year in the marathon.

G.Kirui won 2 tactical races, that's all. He's very good but yet to prove he is very fast too. Kipchoge's breaking2 performance is the stand out performanceof the year, and 99% of us agree. Also Kipchoge's Berlin performance is the second best of this year. Adola ranks 3rd, better than Kipsang's Tokyo. If somehow Kipsang gets a CR he will be second overall this year. If he only wins then a tie with Kirui for 2nd.

gathernomoss wrote:

Time for Kamworor to make a statement !

Kam will be tough to beat. We're talking about a guy who even Eliud thinks is the future.

If you are sub-3 and a white woman you will get elite status at NYCM.

Belaynesh Fikadu is in the pro women's race in New York, contrary to what this poster wrote...

I wish Bekele will sign up for NYC to. Wilson will easy win on his own but will be more harder to run fast time. But if Bekele joins to then he will be able to go out hard. Bekele won't get the world record there though. Low 2:04 I'd predict if both of them are running. Wilson would also be sub 2:05 and beat Mutai's course record to.

he might win but there's no way he will break the course record. Simply put I believe prime Geoffrey Mutai had had the highest ceiling of any marathoner and that day in NY was probably in 2h02 low shape, a kind of shape that only Eliud Kipchoge could match.

I think I may have been a bit caught up in the excitement when I wrote this post. I dont think Kipsang has a shot at a WR in NYC. HOWEVER, kipsang I guarantee that the course record will fall. If I needed to make a prediction I would say sub 204...barely.

Although...Kipsang is a long distance god so who knows.

El Keniano wrote:

Kam will be tough to beat. We're talking about a guy who even Eliud thinks is the future.

He was the future in 2012. His marathon times have gotten slower every year since, and his PB is still from 2012.

Breaking wasn’t a real marathon, so the time can’t be used, plus it was a farce. He ran 2:03 in Berlin, and Tadese ran I believe 2:12 in Chicago. The runners didn’t improve, so it shows how weak it was. And again you can’t get points from a non- legal event. It wasn’t a real race. Points come from

REAL,record level racing events.

Geoff won two world majors, and Kipsang wins 2 world majors, and breaking the course record in both, forget about it!

From IAAF points system, yes, but honestly we all know they don't matter. Kipchoge's run in Monza was the best this year. He was in 2:01 high 2:02low shape. Also, in Berlin the weather was bad, rain and gusts of wind. I was there. If the weather had been ideal, the WR would have been gone. Not by much but still 20 seconds or thereabouts. Geoff is an amazing runner and prospect for the future, but at the moment he would blow up in a 2:04 race unless he proves it. Kipsang is past his prime, at best he could get a 2:06 low this year in NY, because he isn't 100% up for it. And next spring he will be in trouble due to the lack of time between NY and Tokyo/London. Mutai's 2:05 was just sublime, at the moment only Kipchoge can beat that in good conditions. Kirui and Kipsang had a great/good year so far, but still, far from Kipchoge's who was almost untouchable.

We agree to disagree. If Kipsang does not drop out at 30km, kipsang wins that race. Kipchoge was not Kipchoge to me in that race, and had Adola ran the tangent he would have won. Kipchoge appeared tired down the stretch, so he possibly wasn't fully recovered from breaking 2. Kipsang would have been the fresher runner, and would have used his experience to win the race. That is one of the reason why I was so livid when he dropped out, he missed a golden opportunity to get another win against kipchoge.

Kipsang is not even close to being past his prime, and for the record, Kipchoge is way older. Rumor has it that he is in his 40s. I don't see Kipsang dropping anytime soon.

I also disagree with Kipchoge being in 2:01 shape. He wasn't and no runner is. Like I said, Kipchoge is a 2:03 guy because that is what he ran, and has not run anything lower. And tedese is a 2:10 guy, not a 2:06 guy. The technology simply allowed those guys to run faster, but in a real race, it's not happening.

What Kipchoge did last year is way more impressive than what he did this year. got the course record in london, and blew rupp and Lilesa away in Rio.

Geoff gets my vote. And if Kipsang gets the course record in NY ( which I doubt it, just saying), plus tokyo's course record, he gets my vote.

Seems fair to me that we're allowed to have different opinions on this. However, in Berlin, everyone could see that Kipsang wasn't feeling great from the beginning, he was grimacing early on in the race. He passed 3m beside me at 15K and i knew he wasn't going to smell the win that day. Probably Kipchoge is older but at the moment he has the upper hand on the rest.