R u telling me Holley wood is a propaganda machine?!?!?
R u telling me Holley wood is a propaganda machine?!?!?
Someone please remind me of the last time there was a crime of this magnitude where we did not know the motivation or intent. It's been nearly a week? So there's a note, with numbers on it.
Meaning what? And we'll be sure, just how?
Face it, the long theory on this thread is most likely correct. So he never fired a gun, big deal. He was driven by the desire to show how easy it is, so he YouTubed the knowledge, probably sprayed the first round of bullets, but still killed a bunch in a tightly-packed crowd, then just kept shooting.
You never saw Seven?
Beautiful Day wrote:You never saw Seven?
You know that's a movie, right? A movie. Not real.
Instead, let's just doggedly stick to the fluid notion of some kind of conspiracy.
So, remind me.
Meanwhile, on Reddit's "the Donald" echo chamber, a complaint is that 57 dead and nearly 300 injured in the month of September in Chicago isn't getting media attention. The thing the Donalders don't realize is, that's war among a group, much like that seen in a lot of other large towns.
But then there's this, which the Right Wingers ignore themselves:
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/10/2/16396612/las-vegas-mass-shooting-terrorism-islam
Is anyone else horrified by the ugly carpet, drapes and clashing furniture fabic in his room?
Trying to believe it was him wrote:
This situation can be understood as a guy who meticulously planned an awful event, BUT, there can be a lot more to this, as well. I really don't want to buy into a conspiracy-type event, but this pic raises many questions.
How did his foot get under the rifle? If he was standing when he shot himself, it would be literally impossible to end up in this position. If he was sitting in his final moment, which could have been possible, it is just an awkward position to be in. Keep in mind that we're talking about 6-8 inches of clearance between the floor and the rifle. Very weird.
https://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2017/10/corps-stephen-paddock.jpg
I'm horrified that dumb assez buy this crap:
https://i.imgur.com/QfaWdGD.jpg
When this is a MUCH bigger issue:
https://www.africanglobe.net/headlines/overlook-wing-violence-refuse-call-terrorism-simple-white/
1. Go to Walmart. Buy whatever crazy rifle you want.
2. Shoot some people.
And I can't buy cold medicine.
Or drive without a seatbelt.
Or have a diesel car.
Or ride my bike without a helmet.
Or buy Lawn Darts.
Because I might get hurt.
He was a violent leftist Trump hater, and his girlfriend has ties to radical Muslim groups in the Phillipines that have slaughtered 60,000 Christians.
How do you know someone didn't call immediately? Unless police happened to be in the hotel at the time it's not surprising it took more than a few minutes for them to arrive.
Eye stress wrote:
Is anyone else horrified by the ugly carpet, drapes and clashing furniture fabic in his room?
Trying to believe it was him wrote:This situation can be understood as a guy who meticulously planned an awful event, BUT, there can be a lot more to this, as well. I really don't want to buy into a conspiracy-type event, but this pic raises many questions.
How did his foot get under the rifle? If he was standing when he shot himself, it would be literally impossible to end up in this position. If he was sitting in his final moment, which could have been possible, it is just an awkward position to be in. Keep in mind that we're talking about 6-8 inches of clearance between the floor and the rifle. Very weird.
https://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2017/10/corps-stephen-paddock.jpg
Also shocking, the photo clearly indicates the dude is wearing Skechers.
Maybe he is anti-cameras.
Fifty Nine people get shot to death at a concert and you think something is strange. Brilliant. You're not saying, you're just saying. Well, my friend, what are you saying. I agree. It's strange. It didn't happen at the last concert I went to.
Here is what I'm going to do: I'm going to let scores of highly trained experienced Federal, State, and Local law enforcement officials do their job and investigate the matter and see where the evidence leads. Here's what I'm not going to do: post a thread on a message board and invite anyone with a half-assed, entirely unsubstantiated nutty theory to come forth and spread lies. But that's just me, and I'm not saying, I'm just saying. By the way, I live in Washington, D.C., only a few miles from FBI headquarters, and I overheard two men in suits on the street say martians were involved.
I don't understand why people are not making a bigger deal about the fact the perpetrator was on psychotropic drugs like Valium when some of the side-effects of Valium are:
- Violent or aggressive behavior
- loss of inhibitions
My theory is that maybe if the major news networks like CNN talked about the drug itself being a major factor, they would basically be shooting themselves in the foot because the companies that sell those drugs often advertise for other drugs in between those very broadcasts that they would be talking about it as being responsible.
The reason I think psychotropic drugs played a more significant role is because it says over time the drugs begins to structurally and functionally change the nerve cells of the brain. It says he was taking it at least 4 months before the attack.
*THAN the FBI is saying.
Think for a second. Does 'THEN the FBI is saying' make any sense? I didn't think so.
He started stock piling guns 6 months before he started taking medication. Also, marksman use that to calm nerves.
Yet somehow you, a letsrun poster, know about it.
ballerr wrote:
comedyrelief wrote:It's a casino. One of the most heavily monitored and recorded places on the planet. If there is more to it, it will become public. Truth is in a target rich environment like he was shooting at, even a blind person would hit someone.
LOL. You ready like the truth is going to come out because it's a casino? Ha! Just the opposite. They are fantastic at keeping secrets. Heck, if MGM released 10% of what they had on Trump he would never have been elected.
Vutfh wrote:
He started stock piling guns 6 months before he started taking medication. Also, marksman use that to calm nerves.
Do you have source for the date he started buying guns? I haven't seen that.
DiscoGary wrote:
They say he had no political leanings. If that's true, then he was the ONLY adult in the country who had no strong political opinions in the last election.
Something is very wrong with this picture.
You severely underestimate the amount of people who just don't give shit. But then again you are Mr. "Us against Them" so you would exaggerate the polarity of the current political climate.
Anyway, back to the conspiracy peddling.
fisky wrote:
Vutfh wrote:He started stock piling guns 6 months before he started taking medication. Also, marksman use that to calm nerves.
Do you have source for the date he started buying guns? I haven't seen that.
"From October 2016 to September 28, 2017, he purchased 33 firearms, majority of them rifles,"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-why-stephen-paddock-gun-purchases-didnt-raise-red-flags/Vutfh wrote:
He started stock piling guns 6 months before he started taking medication. Also, marksman use that to calm nerves.
We only know he took the Valium 4 months before the attack because it went through the Nevada State Prescription Monitoring Program. However obviously he could have been given psychotropic drugs that didn't show up in this database if it were prescribed by a doctor who didn't think the prescription needed to be submitted through this system (the Prescription Monitoring Program is only mandatory under certain circumstances), in which case the records of his prescriptions probably would not be so easily accessible.
If the doctor who prescribed him it was not a new doctor, one possible scenario is that that tells us he was abusing his prescription (why the doctor submitted it through the PMP Program), and that tells us he had built up a tolerance to the drug, which means he needed a higher dose, which means the drug did have a lot of time to affect his state of mind.