Deadliest mass shooting in US history in Las Vegas - More than 50 dead

Its gotta be said wrote:

Gotta bee wrote:

I'm amazed by the amount of people who don't understand that gun-control does not stop people like this man from getting guns, its just like illegally obtaining drugs, people that want guns to do things like this will still get them....

Dude he was making a general statement about the state of these boards and said absolutely nothing about the incident or gun control. He must have hit close to home...

FYI I'm referring to this post.

'Amazing how many people are trolls or simply retarded on LRC as evidenced by some of the responses on this thread... most are hobby jogging white middle-aged men trying to re-live there glory days.' - doubletalk.

I am a gun enthusiast, NRA member and 2nd amendment supporter. Let me tell you very simply, more guns would NOT have helped. If every person at the concert were armed more people would be dead, not less.

There is only one solution: Paid private snipers. Just like every flight with more than 300 people requires a US Marshall, every event with more than 10,000 people should require a sniper. Events covering larger areas or with more people may need multiple snipers.

We need highly trained individuals with high power weapons. I'm would support the US banning all civilians from having anything but hunting rifles if they also allowed for fully automatic weapons in the hands of the trained and vetted.

Unlike most other countries, the US chooses to have the freedom to own firearms with virtually no regulation at the risk of periodic mass shootings like this one. We have made this choice since the first mass shootings in the 60s like the Univ. of Texas bell tower shooting and we will continue to make this choice for the foreseeable future. It will take something MUCH worse than this for anything to change with respect to US gun laws.

What go on in Vegas stay in Vegas, nun of my beeswax, ignorance is bliss.

gunguy wrote:

I am a gun enthusiast, NRA member and 2nd amendment supporter. Let me tell you very simply, more guns would NOT have helped. If every person at the concert were armed more people would be dead, not less.

There is only one solution: Paid private snipers. Just like every flight with more than 300 people requires a US Marshall, every event with more than 10,000 people should require a sniper. Events covering larger areas or with more people may need multiple snipers.

We need highly trained individuals with high power weapons. I'm would support the US banning all civilians from having anything but hunting rifles if they also allowed for fully automatic weapons in the hands of the trained and vetted.

I'm not quite sure of the logic behind your reasoning, especially as it relates to more people being dead if everyone was armed. Since the guy appears to gave been on the 32nd floor of the hotel next to the venue, neither more, nor less firearms would have made any difference at all. I'm also a bit fuzzy on the statement about banning all but hunting rifles, also the sniper idea seems a bit "out there". Can you explain your reasoning in more detail?

gunguy wrote:

I am a gun enthusiast, NRA member and 2nd amendment supporter. Let me tell you very simply, more guns would NOT have helped. If every person at the concert were armed more people would be dead, not less.

There is only one solution: Paid private snipers. Just like every flight with more than 300 people requires a US Marshall, every event with more than 10,000 people should require a sniper. Events covering larger areas or with more people may need multiple snipers.

We need highly trained individuals with high power weapons. I'm would support the US banning all civilians from having anything but hunting rifles if they also allowed for fully automatic weapons in the hands of the trained and vetted.

Not a bad idea. Certainly need to provide some added level of security. As a conservative, I am for some type of gun control, but even that type of law will not prevent a guy like this or other criminals from getting assault weapons.

One thing that is rarely discussed in these arguments is the prevalence of these shooters on some type of psychotropic medications, as it was with the Sandy Hook, Aurora theatre, Va Tech, Gabby Giffords shooters etc. I would bet that a good 80-90% of these shooters are on some cocktail of psychotropic meds, and a good start would be to disallow gun sales to anyone on these meds.

Who knows what this guy's motives ultimately were, but a normal person just doesn't open fire on a crowd of innocent people. I'll bet he had some psychological issues and was on some type of anti-depressant/anti-anxiety prescription drugs.

Bradford- wrote:

it's the white man's fault

This should be declared a hate crime. Clearly the shooter was targeting white people otherwise he would not have gone to a country music festival. White on white crime is out of control!

gunguy wrote:

I am a gun enthusiast, NRA member

you're an a$$hole then. what has the NRA "done" for you?

Ultradude wrote:

Unlike most other countries, the US chooses to have the freedom to own firearms with virtually no regulation at the risk of periodic mass shootings like this one. We have made this choice since the first mass shootings in the 60s like the Univ. of Texas bell tower shooting and we will continue to make this choice for the foreseeable future. It will take something MUCH worse than this for anything to change with respect to US gun laws.

No regulation? You obviously no nothing about firearm laws. The existing regulations are numerous, however not aggressively enough enforced in most jurisdictions. Chicago, case in point..........also the shots I heard in the news feed of the incident indicated a fully automatic weapon. Illegal. Now if it does turn out it was fully automatic, how did he either obtain it or modify a firearm to go into full auto mode? The latter requires significant gunsmith skills.

Now, now boys, play nice.

If the mentally ill can't have guns, who's rights will they the next abridge?

every american flying to europe should be vetted extra hard, perhaps people from gun states should not be allowed to travel to europe at all. Its way too dangerous to let violent americans travel

This was a terrible act of terrorism by an old white guy. What a tragedy. It's so normal in our society, I'm not even shocked. When you have a society with lots of guns, poor mental health, and a culture of violence, this crap is bound to happen. I hope our country can do more to prevent this sort of thing, but we won't.

As usual, The Onion has the best coverage of the incident.

http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-prevent-says-only-nation-where-regularly-ha-57086?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing

ISIS is claiming responsibility. Says he converted to Islam months ago. Provides no evidence of that.

Nailed it.

The media is now blaming this on the Muslims.

I kid you not.

Supposedly "ISIS", whatever that is -- and it seems more and more likely it is a boogeyman created by the CIA and Mossad -- is taking credit for the shooting.

Claiming that this 64 year old white guy converted to Islam recently.

Wow.

The lies get worse and worse.

guns baby wrote:

Now, now boys, play nice.

If the mentally ill can't have guns, who's rights will they the next abridge?

Seriously, it's a good start, no? It's amazing how everyone thinks they have "rights," but no accountability. Everyone has a "right" to free healthcare, even though the average American moron eats like crap, largely including GMO, pesticide-ridden, processed junk food and excessive sugar, alcohol, marijuana and/or tobacco consumption. But, damn it, let them ruin their bodies and only be responsible for a $60 co-pay for an extensive surgery or treatment protocol when they inevitably get sick.

Dylann Roof just another example of a whacked out psycho on psychotropic meds. Let's just see what the autopsy shows... meanwhile, the media just can't stop sensationalizing this attack as the worst ever, inviting the next one, almost begging for the next one to come along.

Jesus, people need to eat healthier, get outside, exercise more, socialize, turn off the television, and quit attacking each other for opposing political views, etc. What a sad country...

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Specifically wrote:

Bingo. Specifically what do Muslims have to do with terrorism?

Well................not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslim. So are you inferring that all mass shootings, firearm related murders etc are done by NRA members? And if so, what data do you have that would support even a shred of that as a premise?

Most? LOL ... Most whites are bigots by your definition.

Uncle Beemer wrote:

The media is now blaming this on the Muslims.

I kid you not.

Supposedly "ISIS", whatever that is -- and it seems more and more likely it is a boogeyman created by the CIA and Mossad -- is taking credit for the shooting.

Claiming that this 64 year old white guy converted to Islam recently.

Wow.

The lies get worse and worse.

Do you use regular or heavy duty tinfoil for your hat?

feldman wrote:

Uncle Beemer wrote:

The media is now blaming this on the Muslims.

I kid you not.

Supposedly "ISIS", whatever that is -- and it seems more and more likely it is a boogeyman created by the CIA and Mossad -- is taking credit for the shooting.

Claiming that this 64 year old white guy converted to Islam recently.

Wow.

The lies get worse and worse.

Do you use regular or heavy duty tinfoil for your hat?

The heavy duty tinfoil was sold out. Some troll name feldman bought it all, and he has back orders that will take years to clear.