Deadliest mass shooting in US history in Las Vegas - More than 50 dead

Trump_wins wrote:

You guys are so uninformed.

You don't understand the basics.

The Founding Fathers were more intelligent than you.

There are some 400+ independent Leaders in this Country, there are 50 State Govenors, there are Thousands of Sheriffs, there are many State Police ...

You actually think a mentally ill President Hillary Granny Clinton, a Community Organizer Obama, a Washed Up George W, a John Kerry, a McLame .... Could convince our Military or 1,000 US Leaders to wage war on the People ....

You are unintelligent, in all due respect ....

First ... What are you going to tell the WIFE MOTHERS SONS And DAUGHTERS when the fire dead Soldiers go home ....

WAR is not Easy ....

WAR is not a Video Game ..

READ some history will you

Please I beg you to inform yourselfs.

Oh, really?

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

posted without comment wrote:http://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/gun-ownership-vs-gun-deaths_2.png

I'm trying to keep out of the US gun debate, but Illinois is literally half the total of US deaths each year so this phoney Mother Jones chart is fake.

The source data is on the chart.

If transparently false statements are the best you have to support your preferred narrative, then perhaps you should reconsider your value system or at least try harder to stay out of the US gun debate.

This is a repost from my response on the other thread.

Its pretty clear to me that the easy access to guns in US has allowed it to be the popular choice by which people will commit mass murders.

I'm not against gun ownership. In fact, I quite agree with the second amendment, and understand the protection it provides to the citizens against a hostile government. That said, IMO, it is FAR TOO EASY for people to obtain guns. I'd prefer a more tightly regulated system, similar to what Japan has.

Before ownership:

-Take educational/safety training class.

-Demonstrate ability to safely handle guns, at some sort of gun range.

-Pass mental health inspection by certified psychologist, and pass background checks (including checks into any gang/crime affiliations).

Then you receive license to own a gun.

During ownership:

-Registration of guns is mandatory. Periodic re-registration is also mandatory (i.e. similar to cars). If a gun is not re-registered, law enforcement will come asking about it, and could carry heavy fine/jail time. This will help curb private sales of guns (cases such as a licensed owner buys pistol for $200, sells to some gangbanger for $300).

-Periodic mental health re-checks are required.

-Limits on the number of guns allowed to be owned by an individual. I cannot see for the life of me why anyone needs 30+ guns. Ridiculous.

-Limits on the amount of ammunition that can be bought within some timeframe.

This is just a quickly put together, rough set of guidelines, but it might be a place to start, and keep guns out of the hands of people who will NOT use them responsibly.

You do realize people died horrible deaths at the hands of a psychopath gun nut.Those with empathy feel sincere shock and regret about this.Not just words but real emotion. It's not the time for "ha ha more guns will be sold dummy"

DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

The gun industry will again be profiting from the deaths of people.

Not a cause for celebration.

The GUN INDUSTRY loves you libbbtwats. You are making them richer and richer and richer....you are actually helping them promote pro gun legislation..it is so awesome how epic your stupidity really is.

With that.....please continue you dummy dumb dumbs.

pineyfl wrote:

they banned lawn darts wrote:

Every year auto manufacturers introduce new safety device to make cars safer. New and/or stricter laws and regulations are passed all the time to make driving safer.

They are LITERALLY building cars that will drive themselves so fewer dvmbass drivers are killed every year.

Guns get less safe and more lethal every year.

Kind of backwards.

The car analogy is one of the most stupid arguments that gun nuts /NRA puppets spew. A car's purpose is transportation from A to B. It has a useful purpose in society. A gun's only purpose is to kill.

The car, more generally, vehicular transportation, is bound into the woven fabric of society, as transportation has always been. Remove it, say goodbye to bringing food to market, services to your house, electricity to your lights. Your job doesn't exist, television and video doesn't work and you have no television or technology to service video anyway. There's no road outside your door since it would have no purpose, no house, or at least as you know it, since there's no actual manufacturing processes that would let you build one. There are no medical services, since hospitals don't exist and doctors and nurses can't get there anyway, and you can't get to them.

Maybe stuff will just magically come to us though, hard to say how a gun nut thinks.

Alpha Maverick wrote:

Think about it. wrote:

Idiot, if you're randomly firing hundreds of rounds in to a packed crowd of thousands that's going to happen. You do know over 550 people were hit so "88 head shots" is not high.

He did it from 1,700 ft. away. He was trained

You're an idiot, it's just over half that distance:

"The shots sound too fast for aimed fire and the distance was too great to pick out individual targets without a scope and time to aim, so it would appear that the attacker simply fired into the crowd. Unaimed fire at 300 yards means the shooter didn’t care about any particular target, they were relying on the fact that the crowd was packed together."

not flawedlogic wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

I'm trying to keep out of the US gun debate, but Illinois is literally half the total of US deaths each year so this phoney Mother Jones chart is fake.

Simply far too many mass shootings in America.

But Chicago has 0.8% of the population but some 6% of gun homicides.

Trump_wins wrote:

You guys are so uninformed.

Tell us all about the war between Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

Do you have a newsletter? Maybe a blog?

Alpha Maverick wrote:

The shooter was popping head shots when people where taking cover and looking up. From 1,700 ft that's pretty amazing. There's maybe 20 people in the US military that could pull off what he did last night.

This shooter had Middle East desert training imo.

Or, people were packed together so tight it was easier than shooting fish in a barrel.

Nah... Let's go with the most complicated, least likely scenario.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

not flawedlogic wrote:

***snowflake couldn’t handle***

Simply far too many mass shootings in America.

But Chicago has 0.8% of the population but some 6% of gun homicides.

Haha, way to refuse to be a man and instead delete the comments that pointed out how woefully wrong your statement was.

What the... wrote:

Alpha Maverick wrote:

He did it from 1,700 ft. away. He was trained

You're an idiot, it's just over half that distance:

"The shots sound too fast for aimed fire and the distance was too great to pick out individual targets without a scope and time to aim, so it would appear that the attacker simply fired into the crowd. Unaimed fire at 300 yards means the shooter didn’t care about any particular target, they were relying on the fact that the crowd was packed together."

Don't forget too he had Middle East training according to Mav, I knew it, another Government conspiracy and cover up, I bet he was an alien too who was able to morph himself in to looking like a human. Friggin government, can't trust them, just as well there's so many firearms so we can protect ourselves.

local lib wrote:

Our forefathers were remarkable. The amount of foresight they had to carefully craft the pillars of our democracy helped produce the greatest country in the world.

They were not infallible, they were not oracles. They got the 2nd amendment wrong.

That said, there is no going back. We will never be able to rid ourselves of that err.

Actually, what has been skewed is the interpretation of the 2nd amendment that extends beyond militias to individuals for self defense.

But the founders certainly did not anticipate the weapons of mass destruction that we can purchase these days with few restrictions.

The greatest irony of Constitutional rights is how the 2nd amendment inspires so much push back anytime efforts are taken to place restrictions on types of personal firearm ownership that may endanger the general welfare. Yet we are quick to limit free speech and assembly for opinions we don't like, attack the press, restrict religions we don't like, expand search and seizure in the name of "public safety", hamper voting rights through shady actions like reducing polling locations and restricted early voting, scoff at equal protection of the laws for people we don't like, and generally not throw an epic fit when rights in other amendments are restricted.

You know why? Because guns make a person feel powerful and secure. The men I know with the most guns are also some of the most senstive and insecure that have to prove their masculinity. It's not about protection. And people don't want to give up that feeling of power and attack on their self image.

DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:

No more guns wrote:

The car, more generally, vehicular transportation, is bound into the woven fabric of society, as transportation has always been. Remove it, say goodbye to bringing food to market, services to your house, electricity to your lights. Your job doesn't exist, television and video doesn't work and you have no television or technology to service video anyway. There's no road outside your door since it would have no purpose, no house, or at least as you know it, since there's no actual manufacturing processes that would let you build one. There are no medical services, since hospitals don't exist and doctors and nurses can't get there anyway, and you can't get to them.

Maybe stuff will just magically come to us though, hard to say how a gun nut thinks.

How many millennia did man exist without the car?

It was when we had an average life expectancy of 12.

you are a coward wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Simply far too many mass shootings in America.

But Chicago has 0.8% of the population but some 6% of gun homicides.

Haha, way to refuse to be a man and instead delete the comments that pointed out how woefully wrong your statement was.

No you refused to point out that the Obama Administration Mother Jones chart was manipulated by "adjusting for age." But older red states are more likely to own guns while younger blues states have less registered gun owners. In states like Alaska, Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas the homicides are more likely hunting accidents. In truth the chart doesn't tell us anything. You try banning hand guns or rifles, it ain't going to happen you moronic idiot.

How's that empathy thing working out for you?Innocent people were killed and I believe your only concern is too make sure liberals are blamed.Tell me you truly felt for the victims. I did.

Starting tomorrow, ban your car. After all, cavemen don't need them.

No more guns wrote:

DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:

How many millennia did man exist without the car?

It was when we had an average life expectancy of 12.

What other false statements you have for me to laugh 😆 at you dumb fck❗️?

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

you are a coward wrote:

Haha, way to refuse to be a man and instead delete the comments that pointed out how woefully wrong your statement was.

No you refused to point out that the Obama Administration Mother Jones chart was manipulated by "adjusting for age." But older red states are more likely to own guns while younger blues states have less registered gun owners. In states like Alaska, Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas the homicides are more likely hunting accidents. In truth the chart doesn't tell us anything. You try banning hand guns or rifles, it ain't going to happen you moronic idiot.

I didn’t do any of those things. I merely pointed out your being a coward for deleting someone’s comment on your patently false claim that Illinois makes up literally half of US homocides. It bothered you so much you had to delete it because you are a snowflake.

DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:I'm a parody

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