I'm late to this thread, but I thought Barack Obama spent that last eight years taking away all of Americans' guns. I certainly heard that a bunch of times...
I'm late to this thread, but I thought Barack Obama spent that last eight years taking away all of Americans' guns. I certainly heard that a bunch of times...
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
No more guns wrote:Guns have no place in modern society among citizenship.
Ban guns.
I'm a crazy urban liberal and I actually don't agree with this.
Individuals are choosing to kill people like this terrible event. Taking their guns away doesn't change the terrible choices they make.
Instead of the NRA taking some responsibility given the risks of gun possession, they make the issue worse with their gun-owning religion, relentless pursuit of weapons deregulation and shifting liability to victims of gun violence.
The far right slashing away at the "social safety net" and violence-prone dogma pushed by groups like the NRA only accelerates the issues that make people choose to kill people in such a horrible manner.
A gun ban doesn't de-escalate the conditions that promote this kind of violence. It would slow the violence briefly. But, it doesn't deal with the social issues that lead to these horrible events at all.
Oh, snap! All we have to do is fix the social issues and all's good!
Not.
And just remember that if this shooting had taken place a year ago, BHO (no, I never voted for him either) would have been blamed by more than a few--just as some people blamed him for Orlando.
And yet, somehow, I don't think many of those same people will blame DJT (nor should they IMO). Y'know, a little intellectual consistency would be refreshing.
Make America Great Again wrote:
Responsible law-abiding citizens should be properly trained and armed to protect our freedom.
Stupid post: "Responsible law-abiding citizens should be trained & armed to protect our freedom?"...like that would have really helped against this one man army SLAUGHTERING INNOCENT PEOPLE from 400 yds away!
You can't predict human behavior. "Responsible" gun owners can become "irresponsible" gun owners at a drop of a dime...nothing new there. Take away the guns and people don't have the means to SLAUGHTER INNOCENT PEOPLE...simple solution!!!
Yeah, like the gun ban in Chicago is really working for its citizens, right?
No Hope For Mankind wrote:
justthefacts wrote:It is amazing to me that we can ban cigarette smoking in public places, yet banning guns is impossible despite all these killings. And it isn't just Republicans who are bought and paid for by the NRA, so stop with the finger pointing. We live in a screwed up society where priorities are upside down and hurt feelings are more important that mass murder. No changes will happen until this country's citizens decide enough is enough. Congress can't pass any decent bill so don't expect them to pass a common sense gun bill, especially when most are intimidated by the NRA, or bought outright.
I would suggest lawyers get together and figure out how they can sue and win a case against the manufacturers of these "weapons of mass destruction", because that is what these automatics are. Sue the companies until some judges end up agreeing or some jury does a slam dunk. It finally got done with cigarettes and it can be done with guns.
Good post.👠I'm sure Congress will do a song & dance about how gun control won't solve the problem while more Americans continued to get slaughtered by evil firearm owners. Lawsuits might be the only hope in changing the paradigm of this situation. Sue the gun manfacturing, sue the hotel, sue the City of Las Vegas, etc. Maybe enough lawsuits won in court might put enough pressure on this country to ban firearms and end these senseless mass killings!
These innocent people, enjoying a concert & doing nothing wrong, were slaughtered helplessly by one evil person legally in possession of many firearms! The reports are now saying the assh&*# had many more firearms and thousands of rounds of ammo at his residence!
People need to wake-up with this nonsense of gun ownership in this country!
Time for a change!
No more guns wrote:
Guns have no place in modern society among citizenship.
Ban guns.
You realize that all the crazy talk from gun nuts about how they have to defend themselves from a tyrannical government instantly comes true when you come try and take away the 300 million guns we have in this country?
It would be a conflagration of gun violence this country hasn't seen since the Civil War.
Next idea.
feldman wrote:
No more guns wrote:Guns have no place in modern society among citizenship.
Ban guns.
You realize that all the crazy talk from gun nuts about how they have to defend themselves from a tyrannical government instantly comes true when you come try and take away the 300 million guns we have in this country?
It would be a conflagration of gun violence this country hasn't seen since the Civil War.
Next idea.
Guns have no place in modern society among citizenship.
Ban guns.
No more guns wrote:
feldman wrote:You realize that all the crazy talk from gun nuts about how they have to defend themselves from a tyrannical government instantly comes true when you come try and take away the 300 million guns we have in this country?
It would be a conflagration of gun violence this country hasn't seen since the Civil War.
Next idea.
Guns have no place in modern society among citizenship.
Ban guns.
What color is the sky in your world?
Actually I don't care, we don't need anything more from you. Just let the adults talk.
feldman wrote:
What color is the sky in your world?
Actually I don't care, we don't need anything more from you. Just let the adults talk.
I'd love to hear your ineffective band-aid solutions. Please, enlighten us all.
What social safety net? wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:The far right slashing away at the "social safety net" and violence-prone dogma pushed by groups like the NRA only accelerates the issues that make people choose to kill people in such a horrible manner.
Except the lunatic Paddock wasn't part of the "social safety net", he was loaded, in more ways than one.
Made my point for me.
No more guns wrote:
feldman wrote:What color is the sky in your world?
Actually I don't care, we don't need anything more from you. Just let the adults talk.
I'd love to hear your ineffective band-aid solutions. Please, enlighten us all.
That's why I asked what color the sky is in your world. Because you're clearly not familiar with reality. There are no easy solutions, including "banning guns" or whatever that means. Your solutions literally starts a goddamn war. The fact that I have to explain that to you shows you're either trolling or intellectually incompetent. Either way it's probably best you just sit this one out.
feldman wrote:
That's why I asked what color the sky is in your world. Because you're clearly not familiar with reality. There are no easy solutions, including "banning guns" or whatever that means. Your solutions literally starts a goddamn war. The fact that I have to explain that to you shows you're either trolling or intellectually incompetent. Either way it's probably best you just sit this one out.
Translation: "I got nuttin'"
Guns have no place in modern society among citizenship.
Ban guns.
If you have a gun, I know you spend a lot of time thinking about what it would be like to shoot someone with it. Don't try to tell me you just use it for hunting or for target practice or it just stays locked up in a closet. What you love is thinking of scenarios that would give you a chance to shoot someone.
This never could happen in Europe
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02871/anders-cropped-pic_2871219b.jpg
26.3 wrote:
This never could happen in Europe
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02871/anders-cropped-pic_2871219b.jpg
HOW MANY TIMES has it happened in Europe (or Japan, Australia, New Zealand) in the last ten years versus how many times has it happened here?
At least your handle matches your IQ.
You and Your Gun wrote:
If you have a gun, I know you spend a lot of time thinking about what it would be like to shoot someone with it. Don't try to tell me you just use it for hunting or for target practice or it just stays locked up in a closet. What you love is thinking of scenarios that would give you a chance to shoot someone.
Well if that's the case it's clearly not enough to take away their guns, these people are psychopaths. We should probably round them up and gas them, eh?
I will say the trolling around here is usually at least representative. This is just pathetic.
who many pounds wrote:
HOW MANY TIMES has it happened in Europe (or Japan, Australia, New Zealand) in the last ten years versus how many times has it happened here?
At least your handle matches your IQ.
Correct.
It's like the people that say we shouldn't try to address our problem with gun violence because they could just use a truck to run people over. They're just not very good at numbers I guess.
This country will be full of guns for the rest of all of ours live. Get used to it.
The 2nd amendment is to protect the citizenry from the tyranny of the State. This problem will never go away.
DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:
You and Your Gun wrote:If you have a gun, I know you spend a lot of time thinking about what it would be like to shoot someone with it. Don't try to tell me you just use it for hunting or for target practice or it just stays locked up in a closet. What you love is thinking of scenarios that would give you a chance to shoot someone.
Yep, as soon as a libbbtwat shows up on my door step thinking they are going to disarm and enslave me I turn their face into a canoe!
Please "try" to disarm We The People Libbtwats;)
Bring it.
And this guy is making my point from earlier. If you don't recognize there's millions of people in this country that feel the same way your head is in the sand.
The President loves guns. Well, he does now, anyway; years ago, when he wasn't seeking the Republican nomination for president he wanted gun control. He also loves prayer now - though his true church every Sunday is the golf course. And he loves putting America First. Even now.
Did you listen to Trump's speech? I suspect many foreigners, especially tourists in Las Vegas did. Trump's prayers are only for American victims?
"Melania and I are praying for every American who has been hurt, wounded, or lost the ones they love so dearly in this terrible, terrible attack."
