List of Boost-ish TPU midsole running shoes. Whatcha got?

Neither Everrun nor Boost are inherently squishy or firm. They can and are made with varying levels of firmness, just like EVA.

theJeff,

Altra's budget shoe "Solstice" is now out - only available from Jack Rabbit until mid Feb. But I am already hearing good things about the sole being very similar to the One 2.5. This could be very, very good news.

Dust wrote:

PUMA has carried the NRG line of shoes with the same TPU ball soles as the Adidas Boost for a few years now.

http://us.puma.com/en_US/pd/mega-nrgy-turbo-mens-running-shoes/pna190374.html?dwvar_pna190374_color=03#prefn1=pnaSName&prefn2=sale&srule=price-desc&sz=12&start=1&prefv1=Run%2FTrain&prefv2=true

Here is a news story summarizing the legal fight between PUMA and Adidas over the technology:

http://footwearnews.com/2016/business/athletic-outdoor/puma-adidas-legal-battle-etpu-soles-nrgy-shoes-213310/

Thanks for this; I wasn’t aware of these.

I am looking at Puma’s NRG line. A lot of these seem to be “casual” or “lifestyle” shoes. Are any of these designed for serious running?

Does Puma design anything for serious running anymore?

Anyways, this thread has piqued my interest. Something with a TPU sole might be my next pair. Saucony Hurricane with Everrun is for sale right now, but those are like 12 oz. per shoe, way too much for me.

Try the Saucony Freedom if your foot is medium-narrow or the Altra Escalante if your foot is a bit wider. Two very good, 8-9oz offerings.

Which model of Skechers uses TPU?

Halls Balls wrote:

Which model of Skechers uses TPU?

None that I am aware of. If you call Skechers and ask, please let us know what they say.

Just a little update: as an experiment, I ditched my 5.5oz* EVA racing flats this weekend in favor of my 9.1oz* TPU Saucony Freedoms for a local 5k. Wanted to see to what extent, if any, the "energy return" of these shoes justified the weight increase.

I ended up breaking a 3 year old PR by over :20.

Now, I am in relatively good shape right now, and I am trying a couple of new things in training, so the shoes aren't the only variable in play here... but to any doubters out there, I encourage you to give a pair of the kicks listed in this thread a try, sooner rather than later.

*listed weights by RW in a size 9

theJeff wrote:

Just a little update: as an experiment, I ditched my 5.5oz* EVA racing flats this weekend in favor of my 9.1oz* TPU Saucony Freedoms for a local 5k. Wanted to see to what extent, if any, the "energy return" of these shoes justified the weight increase.

I ended up breaking a 3 year old PR by over :20.

Now, I am in relatively good shape right now, and I am trying a couple of new things in training, so the shoes aren't the only variable in play here... but to any doubters out there, I encourage you to give a pair of the kicks listed in this thread a try, sooner rather than later.

*listed weights by RW in a size 9

You should get a postal scale. That you know the exact weight of all your shoes. Kinda fun to know that info.

I'm in the market for some lightweight trainers for the faster days, so I think that I will make my next purchase of the TPU variety. Just would be nice to find a pair that is a tad more affordable than what seems to be out there.

I think I have a scale that would do the trick... I just don't want to know how much heavier my clown shoes are than a size 9, lol

+1 on looking forward to more affordable options. I hope that word gets out that TPU and Pebax are the wave of the future, and competition will bring down prices... I think the Escalante is the cheapest out there at $130ish... everything else is $150, $160, up to $250... *vomits*

800 dude wrote:

Neither Everrun nor Boost are inherently squishy or firm. They can and are made with varying levels of firmness, just like EVA.

I have confirmed from NB that EverRun is EVA, not TPU. Sadface.

Pantman wrote:

theJeff,

Altra's budget shoe "Solstice" is now out - only available from Jack Rabbit until mid Feb. But I am already hearing good things about the sole being very similar to the One 2.5. This could be very, very good news.

It is on RW now... but it has an EVA midsole, not a TPU... sadface

theJeff wrote:

800 dude wrote:

Neither Everrun nor Boost are inherently squishy or firm. They can and are made with varying levels of firmness, just like EVA.

I have confirmed from NB that EverRun is EVA, not TPU. Sadface.

No, my bad... EverRun is Saucony, and it IS definitely TPU... I was thinking about New Balance's RevLite, which is definitely EVA. Sorry bout that.

theJeff wrote:

I think I have a scale that would do the trick... I just don't want to know how much heavier my clown shoes are than a size 9, lol

+1 on looking forward to more affordable options. I hope that word gets out that TPU and Pebax are the wave of the future, and competition will bring down prices... I think the Escalante is the cheapest out there at $130ish... everything else is $150, $160, up to $250... *vomits*

Oh, I’m only a size 11 and I’m finding that some of my shoes are an ounce or more heavier than the listed weight. I think only the short and light people are the only ones that actually get lightweight shoes. Those of us larger than average are generally stuck with clunkers.

I thought that I found a deal with the Saucony Triumph 3, but those only seem to have the Everun TOPSOLE while the Triumph 4 has the Everun MIDSOLE. Saucony marketing is a bit misleading because they are including an Everun topsole in many models, but an Everun midsole in only a few models and advertising all of them as part of the Everun line. It seems everything with the Everun midsole is $160+.

My other gripe is how most of the shoes with TPU midsoles or Adidas Boost or fancy new Nike tech seem to have 8mm or greater heel-toe drop, which either skimps on the forefront cushioning or, if it does have thicker forefoot cushioning, it results in a thicker, heavier shoes with giant heels. Obviously, there are exceptions to this such as the Altra Escalante and Saucony Freedom, but the slim offerings at the moment are less than ideal.

Well, I ordered a pair of Saucony Freedom ISO from Jackrabbit, they had a sale I couldn’t refuse. I’m in the market for a pair of lightweight trainers that still feel good for harder runs/workouts of 10 miles or more, so I hope these do the trick.

FYI, here are some details about the Brooks Levitate 2. Seems like basically the same shoe but with a Fit Knit upper that make shave off a few tenths of an ounce. I have the Brooks Adrenaline GTS 18 with a knit upper, it’s nice but seems like it could be less durable.

The other potential upside of a Levitate 2 is potential sales on the original Levitate, which, while somewhat heavy, seems like a good option for easy and moderate pace runs.

http://blog.runningwarehouse.com/gear/rs/brooks-levitate-2-first-look/

I know several of you have been waiting on the Altra Vanish.

It doesn't show up on Altra's site yet, but it does on Holabrid:

http://www.holabirdsports.com/altra-vanish-r-mens-blue.html

4.5 oz! I definitely want to try it on and would consider it for Boston if I can get a few longish runs done in time.

I ordered a pair of Adidas PureBOOST DPRs on a good sale after reading that they have a wider toebox and less drop than most Adidas shoes.

Anyone try them? What should I expect?

I've put over 400 miles on mine. They do have a wider forefoot, which is nice. The upper is ok, but the tounge and collar are weird. The ride feels "flat," as if there is no real energy return. I could and did run 5:30 miles in them as well as runs up to 15 miles; however, I thought they were best suited to easy mileage days on grass. In short, they're probably a good value on sale, but they're definitely not worth the MSRP of $150.

theJeff wrote:

I ordered a pair of Adidas PureBOOST DPRs on a good sale after reading that they have a wider toebox and less drop than most Adidas shoes.

Anyone try them? What should I expect?

Just from looking at the picture, the sole looks a lower quality version than what you find on the Supernova, for example.