Arkansas win 37-47 against Colorado......school of mines!!!!

Track2cross wrote:

Seems there was a little bit of a battle between a D1 and D2 school.

Pity to see what the xc team has become. Obviously very difficult to ever be compared to the legendary JM era, but it's pretty bad right now. As an alum, I cringed in Eugene last spring when I saw no Hogs in the 1500m final. Everything goes in cycles, but it hurts my heart to see this chapter.

John McDonnell had Tyson Chicken on his side.

Falcon and Reina days seem to be long gone :( Coach said he was racing his -A team as kenyan Rono did not compete. WHY a 10k in September???

Mines is in the same conference as Adams St. and are currently ranked pretty highly in Div II.

Chili Pepper has always been a 10k.

PS. Can someone please tell me what the heck George is doing with his hands?

I like it. It's boring being a fan in 2017 when teams don't race full squads. Finally something in the other direction.

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/george-returns-to-top-of-chile-pepper-podium/

Arkansas women won women's race as well.

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/no-9-arkansas-takes-first-at-chile-pepper/

Pity? Give me a break. Arkansas is ranked #5 in the D1 polls.

Co Mines have been National Champions and have laid waste to many a top D1 teams over the years.

Ronald Dump wrote:

Mines is in the same conference as Adams St. and are currently ranked pretty highly in Div II.

Chili Pepper has always been a 10k.

False.While, I actually had forgotten it was 10k back in 2005 when I went there with Cornell, it wasn't 10k the last 2 years.

rojo wrote:

Ronald Dump wrote:

Mines is in the same conference as Adams St. and are currently ranked pretty highly in Div II.

Chili Pepper has always been a 10k.

False.While, I actually had forgotten it was 10k back in 2005 when I went there with Cornell, it wasn't 10k the last 2 years.

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/10850.htmlhttps://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/8949.html

So it's been 10k for most of the recent history. Feel better? Doesn't really change to point to the poster questioning the length of the race who I'll assume was you.

So Arkansas won easily and were holding back...why is this a surprise?

Rojo both arkansas teams didn't beat anyone of note! Arkansas back in the day were amazing. This was the team that everyone had their eyes on back in the late 80's. Now the team is made up of Australian's, brits, and kenyan's! Why don't they get any very good American runner's anymore. That is the question that I ask?

Was there a time when this meet was always on the same weekend as Pre Nationals. Late 80s-90s?

It's an attempt to make an A.

Coahc wrote:

Rojo both arkansas teams didn't beat anyone of note! Arkansas back in the day were amazing. This was the team that everyone had their eyes on back in the late 80's. Now the team is made up of Australian's, brits, and kenyan's! Why don't they get any very good American runner's anymore. That is the question that I ask?

Arkansas has long had a stable of Brits, Irish, a few Kenyans here and that (Frank O'Mara, Boit, etc).

McDonnell was Irish and brought a lot of guys over to run at Arkansas.

P.S. Putting an apostrophe before an "s" at the end of the word denotes possession. That is not how you pluralize a word.

There are three runners.

I had a runner's high on my tempo this morning.

Just FYI.

A few thoughts, as I am a huge fan of John McDonnell, and I was at the meet yesterday.

1. Arkansas is not who it once was, but I don't believe that it ever will be as long as John McDonnell is not running the program. If you've read his biography, he did what he wanted, he outworked everyone, and had great intuition on how to train and lead young men. We'll probably never see someone as brilliant as he was.

2. Colorado School of Mines is ridiculously good. They had probably 12 guys out there racing yesterday and probably 9-10 of them were ~5:00/mile pace or faster for 10km. This might not be impressive for D1 schools; but for a Division II school to have that many guys running that well for 10km is pretty impressive.

3. Why are all of these great meets on the same weekend. I attended Chile Pepper in 2005 (or was it 2006?) and I remember seeing schools from all over the country. East coast, west coast, northern schools, southern schools, etc. This year, on the same weekend, you had Chile Pepper, Oklahoma State Jamboree, Notre Dame, Paul Short, Louisville, Dellinger, etc.

Was a decent morning for running in Arkansas. Hope everyone that was there ran well!

Seriously!?! I did not know there were so many fast people who wanted careers as a Mime. Do Mimes make good $$$? I can't believe they have a whole school in Colorado dedicated to helping young people achieve their dream of becoming a....Mime? Weird.

Colorado School of Mimes? WTF? wrote:

Seriously!?! I did not know there were so many fast people who wanted careers as a Mime. Do Mimes make good $$$? I can't believe they have a whole school in Colorado dedicated to helping young people achieve their dream of becoming a....Mime? Weird.

This was just awful.

It is the Arkansas 'A'