Can't he just admit he was no good at football?
Bob Hayes was a wide receiver and did pretty well.
Can't he just admit he was no good at football?
Bob Hayes was a wide receiver and did pretty well.
Seriously? You're pulling out a sprinter and NFL great from 50+ years ago to make your point? You're trying too hard to make it look like you know something about American football.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Can't he just admit he was no good at football?
Bob Hayes was a wide receiver and did pretty well.
Well, what about Devon Allen from like right now?
The NFL has always had converted short sprinters.
Renaldo Nehemiah, Willie Gault, Chris Johnson, Raghib Ismael, Jeff Demps ...
I don't know of any notable quarter milers in the NFL.
Yes, his acceleration is too slow to impress on just raw athleticism. If he had devoted himself to football earlier he would have made it I'm sure.
Tim Dwight.
uh, hmm wrote:
Seriously? You're pulling out a sprinter and NFL great from 50+ years ago to make your point? You're trying too hard to make it look like you know something about American football.
ukathleticscoach wrote:Can't he just admit he was no good at football?
Bob Hayes was a wide receiver and did pretty well.
I don't know anything about American football but even if it was 50 years ago he was an all time great and Gatlin couldn't even get any place on a team.
And even with my limited knowledge I would think it's more to do with his ball handling skills than running ability.
He was admitting precisely why he was no good at it.
He was saying that a 400m runner would be more suited for the NFL than a 100m runner because the repeat sprints to go out for passes is more like 400m training.
But I pointed out all of the really good short sprinters to make it in the NFL without any notable 400m runners making it.
Flotrack has a few listed
http://www.flotrack.org/article/9569-track-and-the-nfl-who-s-the-fastest-ever#.WcqcEhOPLXQ
beergutkid wrote:
Yes, his acceleration is too slow to impress on just raw athleticism. If he had devoted himself to football earlier he would have made it I'm sure.
LOL.
Just want to be sure I understand you. You think Justin Gatlin doesn't accelerate fast enough for the NFL. Are you saying this? This is your meaning?
Star wrote:
The NFL has always had converted short sprinters.
Renaldo Nehemiah, Willie Gault, Chris Johnson, Raghib Ismael, Jeff Demps ...
I don't know of any notable quarter milers in the NFL.
RGIII...
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Can't he just admit he was no good at football?
Bob Hayes was a wide receiver and did pretty well.
My guess is that you have a lot of disdain toward Gatlin and are expressing it although the point Gatlin makes has nothing to do about why he did not make it.
Star wrote:
The NFL has always had converted short sprinters.
Renaldo Nehemiah, Willie Gault, Chris Johnson, Raghib Ismael, Jeff Demps ...
I don't know of any notable quarter milers in the NFL.
Renaldo Nehemiah? He lasted about 5 plays over two years and suffered two knockout concussions over those 5 plays.
Skeets played for the 49ers for three years and has a Super Bowl ring.
Not great stats but a 17.5 yard average per catch. He drew double coverage deep and allowed Montana to throw underneath.
And he made the team, which Gatlin could not.
Say what, Bro? wrote:
Star wrote:The NFL has always had converted short sprinters.
Renaldo Nehemiah, Willie Gault, Chris Johnson, Raghib Ismael, Jeff Demps ...
I don't know of any notable quarter milers in the NFL.
Renaldo Nehemiah? He lasted about 5 plays over two years and suffered two knockout concussions over those 5 plays.
I remember a quote about him years ago 20 second legs and 12 second hands or something like that.
To the other poster you are right I don't like him but I might have changed my mind if he wasn't so arrogant or actually admitted doping. I wouldn't have boo'd him in London though.
Star wrote:
The NFL has always had converted short sprinters.
Renaldo Nehemiah, Willie Gault, Chris Johnson, Raghib Ismael, Jeff Demps ...
I don't know of any notable quarter milers in the NFL.
I'd guess maybe Gatlin is right that 400-type shape is more helpful for WR than 100-type shape, but that ignores size and strength. Top 400 guys are too thin and would get tossed around on the field.
Yes, as a walk-on in 2008. 4.42 40.
JRRJRJ wrote:
beergutkid wrote:Yes, his acceleration is too slow to impress on just raw athleticism. If he had devoted himself to football earlier he would have made it I'm sure.
LOL.
Just want to be sure I understand you. You think Justin Gatlin doesn't accelerate fast enough for the NFL. Are you saying this? This is your meaning?
skinny dude wrote:
Star wrote:The NFL has always had converted short sprinters.
Renaldo Nehemiah, Willie Gault, Chris Johnson, Raghib Ismael, Jeff Demps ...
I don't know of any notable quarter milers in the NFL.
I'd guess maybe Gatlin is right that 400-type shape is more helpful for WR than 100-type shape, but that ignores size and strength. Top 400 guys are too thin and would get tossed around on the field.
Juantorena could have done it! He was 185 at racing weight. You collide with him and you will be flattened.
A 180 pound man moving 20mph will do more damage than a 300 pound man moving 10mph, which is faster than most 300 pounders can go. Momentum is everything.
UK Coach: There is bell curve regarding NFL wide receiver speed. I am guessing about 4.5 is the mean speed for wide receivers with a normal bell curve. Is 4.5 NFL speed closer to the raw speed of 400m athletes? Most likely. Do the 4.5 NFL wide receivers run close to 4.5 speed in the 4th quarter of football games? Maybe. Do 4.3 speed NFL wide receivers run close to 4.6 speed in the 4th quarter? Possibly. I am familiar with the speed of Bob Hayes and the speed of Johnny "Lam" Jones. I am also aware of the productivity of Chris Carter and Steve Largent. Sprinting speed is most likely the fourth most important factor for a wide receiver