Whites, especially males, and Asians in the US: why are you such pushovers regarding "Affirmative Action?"

When I look around and see that most people in positions of power in this country and white and male, I fail to see how anybody can complain that AA somehow has put us whites at a disadvantage. Given the wrongs we have done to other groups, I think we actually have a pretty sweet deal and have gotten away more than lightly!

Becuz Rasism

atonement wrote:

When I look around and see that most people in positions of power in this country and white and male, I fail to see how anybody can complain that AA somehow has put us whites at a disadvantage. Given the wrongs we have done to other groups, I think we actually have a pretty sweet deal and have gotten away more than lightly!

I disagree. I didn't get away with anything. And many of the whites I se supporting "Affirmative Action" are in elite positions. I suppose it's not frequent enough to damage meritocracy the way "Affirmative Action" does, but they can endow a chair or simply make a large donation to get their kids into a top school.

And why are women given advantages via "Affirmative Action?" In the USA, they, by several indicators, outperform men (fewer imprisoned, attain college degrees at a higher rate, outlive men, fewer go into combat).

I think "Affirmative Action" harms the people it most purports to help by diverting attention from the root problems such as bad schools. Roughly 70% of black babies are born out-of-wedlock in the USA. Consider the effect of this just on language skills: hearing adult conversation less frequently at home probably has a very large effect on language skills. And "Affirmative Action" casts doubt on genuine achievements of its purported beneficiaries.

And the system gets gamed. I know two guys, small business owners, who claimed theirs was a "women-owned" business. A company I worked for hired them all the time largely because of that status.

Because I'm doing well and there isn't a minority in my company that makes more than me.

And I don't get tickets.

Police give me warnings.

L L wrote:

Because I'm doing well and there isn't a minority in my company that makes more than me.

And I don't get tickets.

Police give me warnings.

I see - you HAVE a job.

Because affirmative action clearly still has not done enough to keep the idiot white males out of college. Still plenty of those yahoos running around on campus. Once that happens, I might get upset.

If you are a white male CEO you love AA since it keeps other qualified white males from rising up and challenging your position. You made it in, now slam the door behind you.

L L wrote:

Because I'm doing well and there isn't a minority in my company that makes more than me.

And I don't get tickets.

Police give me warnings.

I'm white, and the son and grandson of NYC police officers. While most of my experiences with cops on duty have been fine, I had one white cop behave like a huge jerk to me, putting my health, indeed my life, in danger when I was on a bicycle, helmeted, fluorescent yellow jersey on for safety - to prove a point. I entered a traffic circle on my bicycle with what I thought and still believe was plenty of clearance. He accelerated (I heard the engine rev) and he put the front bumper of his patrol car about 1/2 to 2 centimeters from my rear tire. I rode to the outside of the circle and dismounted. He claimed I rode into the traffic circle without yielding to him. I kept my mouth shut as much as possible and spoke only to answer his questions. Yeah, I received no ticket, but I think he would have been embarrassed if there were footage of the incident.