Tour de France is not an "ENDURANCE" event

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Try it for 21 days.

Ultras deserve the lack of respect they get.

Coach wrote:

Try it for 21 days.

OK it's one of the most prestigious RECOVERY events in the world. Endurance is judged by its continuity.

The Tour de France is definitely an endurance event. Why are we even entertaining this?

It should be banned for increasing the participants risk of getting testicular cancer.

MAGA

sageisararename wrote:

50% VO2MAX for five hours.

85% VO2MAX for one hour.

That's what these guys are doing at best.

I'm sorry but if you haven't smashed the fatties, you aren't a true long distance athlete. Tour de France stages are carb fuelled and it's an insult to call it a gruelling endurance event when you've barely tapped the fats.

Cute. Very cute. Maybe Bolt will try it next.

luv2run wrote:

sageisararename wrote:

50% VO2MAX for five hours.

85% VO2MAX for one hour.

That's what these guys are doing at best.

I'm sorry but if you haven't smashed the fatties, you aren't a true long distance athlete. Tour de France stages are carb fuelled and it's an insult to call it a gruelling endurance event when you've barely tapped the fats.

Cute. Very cute. Maybe Bolt will try it next.

Yes, sprinters could do very well in cycling. As I mentioned the tour is a carb-dependent event.

"Gruelling endurance." This guy has the torso of an Olympic lifter and the legs to boot. AND SOMEHOW he's winning four hour stages. Tell me how that works.

Now to put this to rest.

Froome, one of the GOATS of Tour de France has two medals from the Olympic time trial events which were finished in about ONE HOUR each. The guy is a straight speed demon, not grinding monster.

I just need ONE person to tell me how that works. That's science people. People who win one hour cycling events are not endurance athletes.

Look buddy, you wouldn't survive a lousy category 4 climb at the Tour, heck you wouldn't make it through a cat. 5, much less a 10% gradient. Get a real life dude.

Those numbers might be for some of the flatter stages. But when they crank it up in mountain stages they're getting in the 90% VO2max range. And TTs are done at 95-100 VO2max where they're near 98% MHR. In Lance's day at the TdF, he was could hold max HR (200) for TTs upward to an hour in length. Probably his rocket fuel program and other PEDs had a big factor in that. 😉

I Know Cycling Very Well wrote:

Those numbers might be for some of the flatter stages. But when they crank it up in mountain stages they're getting in the 90% VO2max range. And TTs are done at 95-100 VO2max where they're near 98% MHR. In Lance's day at the TdF, he was could hold max HR (200) for TTs upward to an hour in length. Probably his rocket fuel program and other PEDs had a big factor in that. 😉

That's what I'm saying-these guys aren't smashing the fatties. This is a high intensity sport with speed demons, not endurance athletes.

BTW are there any riders with a 120 rpm regular cadence?

True, it's not an endurance event.

The three weeks, though, are.

But sitting in groups all those damn boring days, that's nothing. Much of it is nothing, in fact. But they go hard, or deep, very frequently. And a few of the days are beyond brutal. It's difficult.

And yes, there isn't a runner on earth who could stick one lap with a Cat 5 road race criterium.

Cyclist here wrote:

there isn't a runner on earth who could stick one lap with a Cat 5 road race criterium.

So what? Adapting yourself to moving a machine as a specialty isn't athleticism, any more than being able to win a stairmaster contest.

Athleticism is run, jump and throw.

Define runner? I'm a 2:28 marathoner 0:32 10k runner and a cat 3 biker when I'm bored. Alastair Brownlee is an 0:28 10k runner and the gap between our biking abilities is even bigger.

sageisararename wrote:

luv2run wrote:

Cute. Very cute. Maybe Bolt will try it next.

Yes, sprinters could do very well in cycling. As I mentioned the tour is a carb-dependent event.

"Gruelling endurance." This guy has the torso of an Olympic lifter and the legs to boot. AND SOMEHOW he's winning four hour stages. Tell me how that works.

http://src.media.cyclingnews.com/2016/10/15/1/20092652_118956.jpg

So what you are saying is that for something to be an endurance event the participants have to be built like 11 year old girls?

@sage wrote:

sageisararename wrote:

Yes, sprinters could do very well in cycling. As I mentioned the tour is a carb-dependent event.

"Gruelling endurance." This guy has the torso of an Olympic lifter and the legs to boot. AND SOMEHOW he's winning four hour stages. Tell me how that works.

http://src.media.cyclingnews.com/2016/10/15/1/20092652_118956.jpg

So what you are saying is that for something to be an endurance event the participants have to be built like 11 year old girls?

If anything, the fact that he carries that much muscle around makes it even more of an endurance event.

How did this crap get bites?