UFC Disproves the idea that EVERY Athlete uses PEDS

doot doot wrote:

Coevett wrote:

No, it was obvious to anyone who has either taken steroids or been around people who have taken steroids that he was indeed, taking steroids. There was no way a guy that big was getting down to light heavy without PEDs, and no way after making such a freakish cut he was outlasting Olympic caliber athletes like Cormier over five rounds.

He continued taking steroids even after being caught before and the new stringent testing with a possible 4 year suspension because he knew he couldn't beat Cormier without them.

Did you compare that soft old turd Cormier to Jones in terms of athleticism with a straight face?

You actually think that Jones, the 30 year old runt of his family, with two brothers who play in the NFL, who trains at altitude in the best gym in the world would lose to Cormier w/o PEDs? Jones' cut isn't any more difficult than McGregor's (or so many others) but he doesn't get popped because he's smarter than Jones. Jones is the Usain Bolt of MMA in terms of athleticism and dominance.

Put your rose-tinted glasses back on and take this bullshit over to the circlejerk at /r/mma where this gets infinite upvotes from other simpletons in any of the 47 threads a month talking about how great Cormier is but boo Jones because he's mean and bad and a bully and on and on.

Coevett wrote:

doot doot wrote:

ChampionshipS? Plural?

From total memory (because arguing about MMA is a trillion times duller and equally less satisfying than shitposting about Bekele and Farah): If I'm not mistaken didn't Bisping catch Rockhold with a lucky first round knockout to get his belt...

... and that's the smoking gun here? Lol Bisping = Rio '16 Centro

You guys are probably the same people that think McGregor is some god because he knocked out Aldo. Aldo was seeing red and made a stupid decision... but Aldo is the unequivocal 145lb GOAT who Dana won't give a rematch because he talks about unionization and shit. Remember that McGregor got the shit kicked out of him in a catchweight fight by an admittedly out of shape, stoner vegetaran Diaz who took the fight on like 12 days' notice. Oh, but McGregor can totally cut from like 170 to 145 clean... 🙄

But yeah. No one dopes in MMA anymore. Just like track. And there aren't any politics behind the scenes. Just like track. Dana and Coe, pillars of fair sport in a sea of meany head cheatin' jerks like Jones.

The only truth in all this is that Jones is GOAT and anyone who's held a belt has doped or is just getting better at it meanwhile the typical MMA fan pats himself on the back while remarking about fairness and integrity in a sport where dudes beat each other retarded for fistfulls of money.

O.K. El Keino whatever you say. Nah, even ElKeino isn't this stupid, his Western education ensures an ability think logically.

Bisping has defended his title once, so he's won a couple of title fights. The fact is he'd never even beaten a top 5 opponent in his career until Rockhold. But guess what? As far as I can recall, every single top 5 guy who beat him at Middleweight has popped for PEDs or looked suspiciously bad since USADA. Then he beats the Middleweight GOAT AND the guy who was set to be the next Middleweight GOAT (Rockhold) who had already totally dominated him in a previous fight.

There's no such thing as a 'lucky punch'. Bisping went looking for Rockhold's chin and found it. Joe Rogan was calling it even before, correctly saying that Rockhold was too confident and leaving his chin exposed. Oh right, McGregor got a lucky punch in against Aldo too within 13 seconds of their fight.

You're not a serious fan of MMA are you? McGregor hasn't fought at 145 since he faced Diaz. He put on a load of muscle to face him, way too quickly for his body to adjust, and that contributed to his gassing. Still, he weighed less than 170lbs for both fights - 168 in the second and probably less in the first. He never had to lose 25 lbs to make 145. More like 15lbs at most, which is normal and almost entirely dehydration. Sounds like you're not even a serious runner if you don't understand that.

McGregor took the first Diaz fight on short notice too. He was preparing for a totally different fight with Dos Anjos. It's a bit like Wayne DeKlerk agreeing to race Rushida over 800m then Rushida pulling out a week before and the promoter persuading DeKlerk to take on Centrowitz over 1500m instead in order to save the meet. Diaz would have outweighed him by over 15 lbs in the octagon. Diaz might be a stoner, but that's why him and his brother get popped for PEDs - because cannabis not only dulls pain it can improve endurance. He also competes regularly in a particularly tough form of triathalon, and at quite a high level too.

Yeah, everybody uses PEDs like Jones. He was just unlucky to get caught...twice (3 times if he hadn't hidden under the octagon on one occasion when the testers came). Furthermore, Cormier has probably crashed his car into pregnant woman drivers many times and fled the scene. He was just lucky not to get caught like Jones. And Cormier probably uses eye pokes against his opponents even more than Jones, it's just that he's so sly we don't notice, not even his opponents. Jones just has to learn to be sly like Cormier and be more careful when he's taking PEDs, hit and running pregnant women and trying to poke out the eyes of his opponents. Cause everybody does that, he just has to be more careful not to get caught.

I hope none of you 'everybody cheats' guys are actual competitive runners. Or competitive anything for that matter.

Ventilo wrote:

doot doot wrote:

But yeah. No one dopes in MMA anymore. Just like track. And there aren't any politics behind the scenes. Just like track. Dana and Coe, pillars of fair sport in a sea of meany head cheatin' jerks like Jones.

The only truth in all this is that Jones is GOAT and anyone who's held a belt has doped or is just getting better at it meanwhile the typical MMA fan pats himself on the back while remarking about fairness and integrity in a sport where dudes beat each other retarded for fistfulls of money.

is this a joke ???

have you analysed these fights at all !!!

Jones black guy pacing who is so far ahead that on side-on shot before he doesn't even show up in tests !!!

Cormier's 809.344 T levels can only be estimated from passing the 3rd round which from looking at the second round & his effective strike ratio finish in a five minute duration with huge amount extra reserved for championship rounds, is ~ 804214 from going to the judges.

with 0.1s stopwatch error, Cormier evades Jone's headkick with ~ 0.001s reaction time

that is nonsense pace for an light hevyweight bout ->

Jim Ryun fought on cinders and was submitting clowns in the first round -> stoppage of Jones via TKO in ~ 52.8 2nd round !!! finish

And Coe was getting toximolopolosis from stray cats!!!! Is this a joke????

Observer of Stupidity wrote:

doot doot wrote:

Did you compare that soft old turd Cormier to Jones in terms of athleticism with a straight face?

You actually think that Jones, the 30 year old runt of his family, with two brothers who play in the NFL, who trains at altitude in the best gym in the world would lose to Cormier w/o PEDs? Jones' cut isn't any more difficult than McGregor's (or so many others) but he doesn't get popped because he's smarter than Jones. Jones is the Usain Bolt of MMA in terms of athleticism and dominance.

Put your rose-tinted glasses back on and take this bullshit over to the circlejerk at /r/mma where this gets infinite upvotes from other simpletons in any of the 47 threads a month talking about how great Cormier is but boo Jones because he's mean and bad and a bully and on and on.

You honestly think the runt of a family of steroid abusers could outwrestle one of the best American wrestlers of recent times without PEDs.

So smartass, why exactly would Jones stuff himself full of PEDs and consequently ruin his career and life if it's obvious he would beat Cormier without them (and both fights were very close, and in the second fight Jones himself admitted he was starting to gas before the head kick)? It's probably cost Jones not only hhis legacy but at least 100 million dollars in lost future earnings. Yet it's obvious to a casual fan on a running forum that he didn't even need to take that risk?