Tom Brady is DONE

Twelve (12) pages of pure nonsense proving the total lack of any understanding of another sport by the know it all LRC dorks. Please, please monitors delete this thread and save the world from the stupidity of posters on here.

Rule book guy wrote:

It was not a fumble. Nor was it a completed catch.

That play was so confusing. On a running play, the rule is the "ground can't cause a fumble," right? (even though it often does). But on a pass completion, the player needs to control the ball to the end of all movement and action, correct? Last night, Jesse James to me appeared to have control of the ball after the catch before stretching it across the goal line, only to lose it when he hit the ground. On end-zone corner-pylon plays, players routinely get touchdowns for stretching the ball across the goal line before fumbling after crashing to the ground. If those are touchdowns, I don't see why James' wasn't, too.

And I do think Gronkowski would have been given the benefit of the doubt if it was him and not James.

T. Bruschi wrote:

[quote]fsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

[quote]John Hannah wrote:

Let's be honest, 2 of those SB losses were pure bad luck. The Giants had incredible good luck.

No, the Giants beat the Pat's by shutting down the highest scoring offense in the league. Brady could not get it done in those games, scoring half their usual total per game. That is why the Giants and Eli beat the Pat's.

If you go back to the first two of those five wins (actually the first three) Brady was a game manager, the D won those games. Then the Seattle loss and Atlanta loss are on the coaches of those teams, both of those games would have been won by Belichick or a competent coach, Brady was handed those games and gets the credit for the wins, but......

Without previously looking these up, I decided to jot down Brady's stats in each of his SB's. Should be somewhat illuminating for how he performed on the big stage.

XXXVI: 16 of 27 for 145 yds -- 1 TD/0 INT -- 1 sack -- WIN

XXXVIII: 32 of 48 for 354 yds -- 3 TD/1 INT -- 0 sacks -- WIN

XXXIX: 23 of 33 for 236 yds -- 2 TD/ 0 INT -- 2 sacks -- WIN

XLII: 29 of 48 for 266 yds -- 1 TD/0 INT -- 5 sacks -- LOSS

XLVI: 27 of 41 for 276 yds -- 2 TD/1 INT -- 2 sacks --LOSS

XLIX: 37 of 50 for 328 yds -- 4 TD/2 INT -- 1 sack -- WIN

LI: 43 of 62 for 466 yds -- 2 TD/1 INT -- 5 sacks -- WIN

fsdfsdfasdf wrote:

Without previously looking these up, I decided to jot down Brady's stats in each of his SB's. Should be somewhat illuminating for how he performed on the big stage.

XXXVI: 16 of 27 for 145 yds -- 1 TD/0 INT -- 1 sack -- WIN

XXXVIII: 32 of 48 for 354 yds -- 3 TD/1 INT -- 0 sacks -- WIN

XXXIX: 23 of 33 for 236 yds -- 2 TD/ 0 INT -- 2 sacks -- WIN

XLII: 29 of 48 for 266 yds -- 1 TD/0 INT -- 5 sacks -- LOSS

XLVI: 27 of 41 for 276 yds -- 2 TD/1 INT -- 2 sacks --LOSS

XLIX: 37 of 50 for 328 yds -- 4 TD/2 INT -- 1 sack -- WIN

LI: 43 of 62 for 466 yds -- 2 TD/1 INT -- 5 sacks -- WIN

All I have to say is F*** Seattle and Atlanta for giving up those games.

TD or Not TD? wrote:

Last night, Jesse James to me appeared to have control of the ball after the catch before stretching it across the goal line, only to lose it when he hit the ground. On end-zone corner-pylon plays, players routinely get touchdowns for stretching the ball across the goal line before fumbling after crashing to the ground. If those are touchdowns, I don't see why James' wasn't, too.

Because James was a receiver, NOT a runner. And under NFL rules, a receiver "must maintain control of the ball until after his contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone". James failed to do that.

Knorben Knussen wrote:

Because James was a receiver, NOT a runner. And under NFL rules, a receiver "must maintain control of the ball until after his contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone". James failed to do that.

The ruling on the field was 'touchdown'. The rule states that there must be VERY obvious evidence that the ball was on the field, free of his hands, and not under his control. I did not see evidence anywhere close to this. I saw the ball moving in or out of his hands. Not for sure "in" or "out" of his hands. The rule even states that the ball can touch the ground during the process if the receiver has control. I did not see anything remotely indicating it should be overturned and if it had been ruled incomplete on the field I saw nothing to overturn that either.

Terrible call and gradually killing the game when fans have to temper excitement to see if what they saw is the same as a frame by frame slow motion recount.

How "the ball moving in or out of his hands" not equate to "free of his hands"?

Honest question wrote:

How "the ball moving in or out of his hands" not equate to "free of his hands"?

Because there was no clear view of whether it was "in" or "out" of his hands AND on the ground outside of his control. The call on the field was the proper call since there was not clear undisputed evidence (the rule) of the opposite.

Opinionated guy wrote:

Honest question wrote:

How "the ball moving in or out of his hands" not equate to "free of his hands"?

Because there was no clear view of whether it was "in" or "out" of his hands AND on the ground outside of his control. The call on the field was the proper call since there was not clear undisputed evidence (the rule) of the opposite.

It was clearly not in his control.

Brady is so good, he can throw TD's to both teams and still get credit for the win. Five consecutive games with INTs, pretty common right?

Yes, bad throw, but look how he recovered after.

MVP race is over. To win it at 40 just more evidence that he is greatest to ever play the game.

Just amazing how good Belichick is, that is all I can say.

He makes every other coach look stupid, and makes Brady look so much better than he really is.

moo wrote:

Much like Allen Webb, he is old, slow and a shadow of his former self. I honestly doubt he throws more than 3000 yards this season. Serves him right for supporting that nazi loving trump!!!

4163 yards, as of today.

Trump Derangement Syndrome claims another victim.

Stick to running and delete your account, moran.

Dum dum dum dum DUMB!!! wrote:

moo wrote:

Much like Allen Webb, he is old, slow and a shadow of his former self. I honestly doubt he throws more than 3000 yards this season. Serves him right for supporting that nazi loving trump!!!

4163 yards, as of today.

Trump Derangement Syndrome claims another victim.

Stick to running and delete your account, moran.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

Uh nope. moo is actually foo- who is a proud Hillary supporter.

not athletic wrote:

Just amazing how good Belichick is, that is all I can say.

He makes every other coach look stupid, and makes Brady look so much better than he really is.

That's what good coaches do, amigo.

Chuck Knoll had Bradshaw (HoF)

Bill Walsh had Montana (HoF)

Tom Landry had Staubach (HoF)

Tom Shula had Unitas & Marino (HoF)

Vince Lombardi had Starr (HoF)

Belichick has Brady (future HoF)

Do an image search for NFL goat and see who comes up the most. Try to buy a goat t-shirt. There are hundreds of variations for TB12. Not so much for the rest. Sorry haters. There is only one.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C386XCPUEAAYABk.jpg

Yes it is common. Here is a list of top 20 QB with most interceptions thrown. There are 12 HoF with 3 more that will probably be added when time comes, most yards thrown, most win and just about every other QB rating leader including SB wins.

+ indicates Hall of Famer Share & more

Rank

Player

Int

Years

Tm

1 Brett Favre+

336

1991-2010

2 George Blanda+

277

1949-1975

3 John Hadl

268

1962-1977

4 Vinny Testaverde

267

1987-2007

5Fran Tarkenton+

266

1961-1978

6 Norm Snead

257

1961-1976

7 Johnny Unitas+

253

1956-1973

8 Dan Marino+

252

1983-1999

9 Peyton Manning

251

1998-2015

10Y.A. Tittle+

248

1948-1964

11 Jim Hart

247

1966-1984

12 Bobby Layne+

243

1948-1962

13 Dan Fouts+

242

1973-1987

14 Warren Moon+

233

1984-2000

15 Drew Brees

227

2001-2017

16 John Elway+

226

1983-1998

17 Eli Manning

225

2004-2017

18 John Brodie

224

1957-1973

19 Ken Stabler+

222

1970-1984

20 Joe Namath+

220

1965-19

not athletic wrote:

Just amazing how good Belichick is, that is all I can say.

He makes every other coach look stupid, and makes Brady look so much better than he really is.

Belichick has definitely been good for Brady (and vice versa), but even he can’t make "Brady look better than he really is." There’s no illusion here. Yours eyes do not deceive you.