[quote]notMD. wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB knows what he is talking about!
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OLD SMTC does not know what he is talking about. Neither do the keto folks. Nobody does when it comes to diet.
Oh, OLD SMTC might be correct on some points. As may the keto folks. As may the paleo folks, as may other, but no one KNOWS. If they say they do, then then are fools.
AFAICT, OLD SMTC has his dietary bias. He seeks out research which confirms it, and ignores or searches for flaws in that which does not. So does Marcela, and Dave Asprey, and most of the Paleo folks.
Even if one is completely open minded and unbiased, it's almost impossible to study diet. You can not control everything a human (or even a mouse does). Did they cheat? If not, did other factors distort their results? Are the results we thing are important really important? We don't know. We are guessing. Looking for correlations, holding on to past (possibly flawed) ideas of what is good nutrition.
Are humans meant to eat only raw vegan? If so, then how do you get vitamin b-12? Do you even need b-12? Are lectins and phytates in vegetables good or bad for us?
I'll say this about keto: it's not, as far as I can tell, eating lots of meat, butter, and cheese. At least from what I see from most current advocates. It's eating lots of low carb vegetables, a small amount of meat, and lots of "good" fat. Good fat being defined as coconut, MCT, avocado, or olive oil. Or real foods high is fat like avocados, cacao, flaxseeds, nuts. Animals which eat things good for the animal - grass fed beef, lamb. Wild fish. Free range chicken. And/or fats from those animals in moderation. The bulk of your food comes from vegetables. Most of the calories comes from fat.
Is this good? I don't know. I suspect it's not as bad as OLD SMTC thinks it in, and not as good as the OP thinks it is.
Me, I eat real food - lots of vegetables, sugar as a occasional treat, small amounts of meat, occasional grains, and I don't shy away from fat, but I don't want 70-80% of my calories coming form it (though I suspect that's ok, maybe even good, for short periods of time [like a few days]). I have no idea if it's ideal or not.