Sandra Vi going for record across America

St Marker wrote:

Also I do respect the fact that Sandy doesn't seem to be using "charadeee" as an excuse for non transparency

She definitely seems more motivated by the sport rather than the motivational speaking career

Sandy has far more people following her than Mimi does. On Strava Sandy get more than 500 thumbs up each event and some 10 comments. Mimi get about 200 thumbs up and just a few comments. Then there are the boots on the ground. Sandy get random people joining her every day now. With Mimi it seems no one has tagged along.

Pretty Simple Really

Sandy and Pete are real runners who love the sport

Mimi is a fake runner who loves the attention

Go Sandy!

So far today wrote:

Sandy? wrote:

Eh, I don't get all the Mimi hate. I'm still kind of on the fence about the validity of her collected run data, but if she wants to run herself (and her knee) into the ground, that's her decision and her business. Doubtless we've all had the experience of doing a long run or race while injured or sick, when stubbornness overrode our common sense. I hope's she able to recover and finish her route to New York.

It doesn't work that way. The doctor can force her to stop for her own protection. Some serious knee damage has already been done.

What? A doctor can't force someone to stop walking or running!

What planet are you from?

Pretty Simple Really wrote:

Pretty Simple Really

Sandy and Pete are real runners who love the sport

Mimi is a fake runner who loves the attention

Real runners don't need fake nicknames like MarathonManUK or Marvelous Mimi!

What? A doctor can't force someone to stop walking or running!

What planet are you from?

Planet reality. If Mimi can't move anymore, no doctor can force her to move.

trivia wrote:

Trivia: How will Mimi leave the USA?

1) As a world record holder

2) In a wheelchair

3) In a coffin

4) none of the above

what is this drivel? wrote:

trivia wrote:

Trivia: How will Mimi leave the USA?

1) As a world record holder

2) In a wheelchair

3) In a coffin

4) none of the above

5) a liar & a cheater

LOL. The race is now officially over, Mimi has lost. Her fanboys are quoting Hillary Clinton :)

https://i.imgur.com/ZOhgDWG.png

LOL...I am a frustrated failed athlete.

NOT!!

Did you read the post? Sandy put in $15,000 of her personal money. They state that they need $30,000 to make it to NYC so they are asking the public to purchase raffle tickets so they can raise the remaining $15,000.

Let's get down to simple math and add up Sandy's shoe string budget (assuming this is a 56 day affair.)

2 volunteer crew members $0

volunteer guest crew members $0

Groceries and supplies for crew members and Sandy $1,500/week = $12,000

Rental for crew car $30/day + $300 returning car in NYC fee = $1,980

Generous loan of RV for free = $0

Gas for RV at 10 miles per gallon ($3/gal) 4,000 miles (3100 miles across America + 900 miles of misc driving around) = $1,200

Gas for RV to return from NYC to west coast 3,000 miles = $900

Wear and tear of RV at $0.25 / mile, 6,500 = $1,625*

Gas for crew car, 20 miles per gallon 4,000 miles = $600

50% of the night on the road at an RV Park for $30/night = $840

Lodging at a kind ultra runner's home in NYC (rather than paying $400/night) for 2 nights = $0

Flights from NYC to CA for 2 people at $300 per person = $600

Total = $19,745

*This does not take into account mechanical issues RV may have out on the road driving through 2 winter storms (UT & CO) before getting to PA where fall weather really gets bad.

So the question is, if this transcon has "won the hearts of America" and all they are trying to raise $15,000 then why are the "sponsors" AdventureCORPS, Zwitty, Mother Road Marathon, A Runner's Mind, HUMA gel, INKnBURN, Squirrel's Nut Butter not stepping up with $2,142 a piece so they don't have to break the law by hosting a "raffle"?

Or does Coach Dave Krupski, Yale graduate attorney, not know that hosting a raffle requires a 501(c) 3 non-profit designation in most states in the US.

Let's just start with California law from the Attorney General's office:

https://oag.ca.gov/charities/raffles

If you really want to get a certification from Guinness World Record, they would want to verify that you have not broken the law in the process. Just give them the $8,000 to process the certificate in 5 days and they won't care that you broke the law.

what is this drivel? wrote:

What? A doctor can't force someone to stop walking or running!

Excuse me, Mimi's fake doctor

SPLITS OCT 17th:

Miles Done: Based on Sandy's 5 mile splits

START OF DAY: Sandy 02:40 AM / Mimi **

- Mimi is in a timezone (Eastern) one hour ahead of Sandy (Central)

As of 03:57 AM: Sandy 5 / Mimi **

As of 05:06 AM: Sandy 10 / Mimi **

As of 06:14 AM: Sandy 15 / Mimi **

As of 07:22 AM: Sandy 20 / Mimi **

As of 08:28 AM: Sandy 25 / Mimi **

As of 09:38 AM: Sandy 30 / Mimi **

As of 10:43 AM: Sandy 35 / Mimi **

** Mimi has been stopped since 07:12 AM of October 16th

SPLITS OCT 17th:

Miles Done: Based on Sandy's 5 mile splits

START OF DAY: Sandy 02:40 AM / Mimi **

- Mimi is in a timezone (Eastern) one hour ahead of Sandy (Central)

As of 03:57 AM: Sandy 5 / Mimi **

As of 05:06 AM: Sandy 10 / Mimi **

As of 06:14 AM: Sandy 15 / Mimi **

As of 07:22 AM: Sandy 20 / Mimi **

As of 08:28 AM: Sandy 25 / Mimi **

As of 09:38 AM: Sandy 30 / Mimi **

As of 10:43 AM: Sandy 35 / Mimi **

Lunch Break: Sandy. Started 10:48 AM. Ended ?? AM.

** Mimi has been stopped since 07:12 AM of October 16th

Mathematician wrote:

I do math wrote:

if Mimi is able to hobble 45 miles per day for 15 days, Sandy would need to run 55 miles per day for 19 days to take the record.

Sandy's daily average is already higher than Mimi's, so simply keeping ahead of her would take the record. However for Sandy to get there first, she'd need to make up the 4 days, plus the time for the extra distance she's doing.

Personally I feel the record matters most, and getting there first doesn't matter at all, also because Mimi has no evidence she's actually doing this.

RE: "simply keeping ahead of her would take the record." Not the case. The record is for the "fastest crossing". The course isn't specified, only the minimum mileage (LA to NYC). If a Marathon gave you two course options, one at 26.2 and one at 28.0, your time is still determined by when you reach the finish line, not your average pace.

It's entirely possible (or was before injury) for Mimi to finish the shorter distance faster (in calendar days) while Sandy finishes the longer distance with a higher average pace but slower "crossing time".

The record matters most, but the record is total time, not average pace. Sandy can still take the record by arriving up to 4 days after Mimi does (in which case Mimi would have temporarily had the record) but she also has built in a 7% mileage penalty and has to run 7% faster just to tie.

I do math wrote:

The course isn't specified, only the minimum mileage (LA to NYC).

Is that a requirement? Someone pointed out that their is a shorter option across the USA by going along the southern border. Anyway, is LA to NYC us a requirement how did those two cities get chosen?

Real person wrote:

Meanwhile in Richmond Indiana

Getting am MRI means she's done.

So far today wrote:

This is a link to the specialist she is seeing. They are noted for knee and hip replacements, and spine surgery. The knee is likely only one of the problems.

I agree, but would NOT see a specialist who only makes money from doing replacements and surgeries.

derry wrote:

Regarding the world record, I assume that Guinness cares about the fastest crossing, not who has the best average pace?