Down goes Bekele

Can anyone that actually speaks german give a brief summary of this...Seems weird they try to hide the identity, but then say it's a Berlin marathon winner that's still active..

And why would Bekele do this interview in the first place..Doesn't seem to make sense..

From that angle, you can't see who the athlete

Is. "the Ethiopian marathoner, still Active, winner of Berlin Marathon" can be a regular Ethiopian athlete, sporting a hoodie.

Well, I'm guessing there can't be that many winners still active.

Or could this be one of the women as well?

I used google translate on this page and the text reads like this:

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Winner of the Berlin Marathon admits dopingSportshow 03.08.2017 | 01:09 Min. | Available until 03.08.2018 | The firstThat doping in the Ethiopian athletics reaches to the absolute top, show ARD searches with hidden camera. A top athlete in the country admits to a decoy to have doped. Brisant: The person is still active, is among the best in the world and has already won the Berlin Marathon.

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Haile and Kenenisa are the only Ethiopian men to have ever won Berlin and since Haile is not still active that leaves only Kenenisa.

A sad thing indeed if that is true, and I hope it is not. And I don't understand why would Kenenisa ever admit that, even to a decoy, even if he didn't know he was been filmed?

ethiopian wrote:

http://www.sportschau.de/av/video-sieger-des-berliner-marathon-gesteht-doping-100.html

I used google translate on this page and the text reads like this:

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Winner of the Berlin Marathon admits dopingSportshow 03.08.2017 | 01:09 Min. | Available until 03.08.2018 | The firstThat doping in the Ethiopian athletics reaches to the absolute top, show ARD searches with hidden camera. A top athlete in the country admits to a decoy to have doped. Brisant: The person is still active, is among the best in the world and has already won the Berlin Marathon.

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Haile and Kenenisa are the only Ethiopian men to have ever won Berlin and since Haile is not still active that leaves only Kenenisa.

A sad thing indeed if that is true, and I hope it is not. And I don't understand why would Kenenisa ever admit that, even to a decoy, even if he didn't know he was been filmed?

yeah, does seem weird that they are not saying the name....but if it is male, there is only one choice in Bekele who meet that criteria.

On the video, they are using a woman's voice for the athlete. So maybe it is a woman (otherwise it doesn't make sense to hide the name). Also, even if it is a female, not so many choices:

Aberu Kebede

Tirfi Tsegaye

Atsede Habtamu

I still don't understand why any of them would admit that?

In the past I always thought Bekele was clean. But I got suspicious when he started working with Canova.

ethiopian wrote:

On the video, they are using a woman's voice for the athlete. So maybe it is a woman (otherwise it doesn't make sense to hide the name). Also, even if it is a female, not so many choices:

Aberu Kebede

Tirfi Tsegaye

Atsede Habtamu

I still don't understand why any of them would admit that?

I noticed it was a womens voice as well...so in that sense, who would use a women's voice to dub over a man's response

ethiopian wrote:

I still don't understand why any of them would admit that?

They got an insider (guy with hoodie) who is apparently known to the athlete he interviewed on hidden camera, so it was probably more like an 'exchange of knowledge'.

Weakest proof ever lol plus it's a woman.? Do better....

spicy Italian pizza wrote:

In the past I always thought Bekele was clean. .

Why?

His WR performances are the type of outliers that are indicative of doping.

Gotta bee wrote:

Weakest proof ever lol plus it's a woman.? Do better....

Agree, the OP's an idiot, but he got me in.

They seemed to imply it was Geb by going straight to Geb after saying that it was a Berlin winner (he won 2006-9), but then ruled it out by saying still active. They show the guy's hands during the secret interview.

Here's a pretty good image of Bekele's hands.

https://media.aws.iaaf.org/media/LargeL/356f5a0d-bb9b-4e32-a6c1-dc365bb2623e.jpg?v=822050358

The upshot: a bunch of the documentary was about a German agent Alexander (forget his last name), who seemed to be using and mistreating the foreign athletes he was bringing in. Some was about the many athletes transferring nationalities for money, 500 alone in 2010, I think they said, many to Turkey and Qatar, some to Azerbaijan. The head of Turkish athletics looks extremely dodgy, no surprise. The promises and treatment of these athletes was not always good. Then they shift to the national championships in Ethiopia, where despite Geb's claim that they conduct many tests, nobody tests positive this year, and the claim many were given at the champs, none of the athletes that they could see during the champs were going to doping testing. The tent they went to after the race just had their belongings. They then said the doping tests were in the stadium. They go to where it is labeled doping and nobody is there. They film through the window and it is empty.

Nothing there. The testing claim is a sham.

Then the interview with the Berlin winner. They show his hands. The voices are not supposed to be theirs, because they say they are protecting their identity and the guy says he'd be killed if he told about the deal. They spend a lot of time talking then about his agent (and Geb's), Jos Hermens who denies a connection to a German doping doctor (from Deutsche Telekom scandal in cycling) and the Freiburg lab, Lothar Heinrich. Yet, Heinrich was mentioned in an article about Haile's (supposed) last track race in 2004 and they found emails indicating that Jos was using Heinrich. What they don't mention is that Jos Hermens also had connections to a Spanish doping doctor as well. Healing Hans is also not mentioned.

The drugs they are talking about are EPO and human growth hormone.

Now, watching that segment again, where they have the female voice-over, while they use the word 'sieger', male winner, not 'siegerin', female winner, the announcer uses the female pronoun 'sie', she, to refer to her. Indeed, I heard it again, "sie hat sogar schon den Berlin Marathon gewonnen." So, that was a female. Also, the person in the hoodie using the cell phone has long fingernails. (She says used human growth hormone and EPO, stopping just a week before the race and passing the tests). So, at least in that scene, it seems to be a woman, not nearly as exciting.

German speakers!! wrote:

Can anyone that actually speaks german give a brief summary of this...Seems weird they try to hide the identity, but then say it's a Berlin marathon winner that's still active..

And why would Bekele do this interview in the first place..Doesn't seem to make sense..

Just off a first watch the only stuff I heard beyond what people I on the boards have concluded is that the informant is concerned for the safety of himself and his family because of what he was saying, he claims doping is popular (I think) in Addis Ababa, and I think he talked about visiting somewhere but that part was kind of fuzzy- I'll do a closer listen to get a full translation. However, I must say that this is really shotty journalism- what would be a massive scandal and the only evidence they have is the word of a couple anonymous sources- or rather the dubbing of their words. Chances are it is untrue but it doesn't hurt to look

spicy Italian pizza wrote:

In the past I always thought Bekele was clean. But I got suspicious when he started working with Canova.

How could that possibility even cross your mind?

Another idiot. wrote:

Gotta bee wrote:

Weakest proof ever lol plus it's a woman.? Do better....

Agree, the OP's an idiot, but he got me in.

Yes, I am. Didn't notice they dubbed the athlete with a women's voice.

But I don't think Seppelt would fake this, so camera footage of a female Berlin Marathon winner admitting to EPO and HGH use is not weak proof.

mods: Please correct the headline to something more appropriate

White American hobby joggers, instead of being obsessed with Africans doping- go to train. It won't get you to the podium, but still...you'd be less pathetic