Women runs 520 miles on treadmill in 7 days but doesn't get WR as Guinness says her witness doesn't count

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Funny you don't like people booing your drug cheat but are all getting your knickers in a twist over this

In fairness, if the drug testers had some of the initiative displayed by a few people here with no resources, maybe athletes would decide cheating was too risky.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Funny you don't like people booing your drug cheat but are all getting your knickers in a twist over this

The whole 'booing' of Gatlin and casting him as the doping pantomime villain is laughable and shows just how biased the BBC is in their story telling, and how uneducated the average athletics stadium go-er is. I baulked when the BBC commenters were lauding up Linford Christie, saying he's giving so much back to sport, yet moaning about Gatlin. No one seemed to mention the fact that Christie has failed the exact same number of doping tests as Gatlin.

Watching any major championships or Olympics is just watching a race to see who has the best pharmacist.

Until then wrote:

Scam_Watcheroo wrote:

I'm rolling my own custom solution with OpenCV instead.

Don't worry nobody else is.

How can we trust that the Scameroo software will accurately account Amy's record (521 miles), when he's been exposed as a hater here on LRC?

Bias is every where wrote:

How can we trust that the Scameroo software will accurately account Amy's record (521 miles), when he's been exposed as a hater here on LRC?

The only way we trust anyone, he shows his evidence and his method and invites us to check.

Alternatively he could start an angry petition and buy a social media rent a mob.

I will leave it to the reader to say which they find more compelling.

Bias is every where wrote:

Until then wrote:

Don't worry nobody else is.

How can we trust that the Scameroo software will accurately account Amy's record (521 miles), when he's been exposed as a hater here on LRC?

Based on the poor mileage records and dubious mileage claims in the Oswestry-London run, as well as the numerous 'marathons' she ran in the 53 challenge, I feel it is safe to say that record keeping, transparency and credibility are in short supply with Amy and her BF.

In relation to the 7 Day Treadmill World Record Challenge there are so many issues that it the only injustice would be to grant her the world record.

The record keeping / recording of data was insufficient to corroborate her WR attempt. GWR states clearly in their documentation that there must be a minimum of 2 independent witnesses present at all times, and for events that are longer than 4 hours in duration, these witnesses must be replaced with 2 other independent witnesses every 4 hours. This means you would need a minimum of 4 independent witnesses (likely more for a 7 day event) for Amy's run, not 2.

The requirements also say video evidence must show the entire attempt, from start to finish. With attempts longer than one hour, you are required to mark significant moments in the attempt and provide GWR with a list of the times in the video when these moments occur. The video must clearly show the measurement of the record (in this case that would be the display on the treadmill and also the person who is running).

In relation to the issue of Amy 'hanging off the treadmill when running'. I can't find any specific guidelines however, I am sure I have read somewhere else that this is not allowed. And when you look at Amy's body language (looking around before doing so) it would be safe to assume that Amy knew (or at least suspected) that this wasn't allowed and didn't want anyone to see her doing this.

With regards to the claim that Amy lost 28 pounds during the 7 day challenge. I find this a truly laughable claim. Looking at the clips of her before, during and at the end, there is a small noticeable drop in body weight, but no where near the 28 pounds claimed. Indeed, I would argue that based on her starting weight, if she lost 28 pounds she would most likely be in hospital, attached to a drip or worse.!

To me this is a poorly executed attempt to break a world record. I think they probably knew after day one that she would never be anywhere near the mileage claimed but, having committed to the attempt, they continued regardless and then 'added' a few miles here and there to make up the numbers.

With regards to the claim that Amy lost 28 pounds during the 7 day challenge

She lost 28 pounds gross, but gained back some of it net, by food consumption.

Energy accounting wrote:

With regards to the claim that Amy lost 28 pounds during the 7 day challenge

She lost 28 pounds gross, but gained back some of it net, by food consumption.

Or maybe the publicist just rounded it up to "about two stone", and the media converted it to US units.

Energy accounting wrote:

She lost 28 pounds gross, but gained back some of it net, by food consumption.

But that happens during a day of reasonable physical activity anyhow, not to mention normal toilet function.

Any reasonable interpretation of what was claimed is that she weight 28 pounds less at the end which is clearly incorrect and highly dangerous

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Energy accounting wrote:

She lost 28 pounds gross, but gained back some of it net, by food consumption.

But that happens during a day of reasonable physical activity anyhow, not to mention normal toilet function.

What? You have 28 pounds of gross food gain/loss during one day?

Fatso. wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

But that happens during a day of reasonable physical activity anyhow, not to mention normal toilet function.

What? You have 28 pounds of gross food gain/loss during one day?

No, he meant 28/7 or 4 pounds per day. I can see why she couldn't eat this much per day.

But surely, she would have been aware of the video camera so why would she be worried about someone actually seeing her hanging on the treadmill? Also, these resting periods might have even been factored in to the final mileage tally.

What really grates me on this specific challenge is the silly #JusticeforAmy social media campaign.

Looking at all the evidence we have in the public domain (GWR rule books and the video clips) it is clear that Amy and her partner never managed to meet the basic requirements of record keeping and independent verification. The whole event was so poorly staged that the only injustice would of been to take the WR from Sharon Gayter and grant it to Amy!

To claim you're a victim of some sort of injustice when the whole issue is down to failures in your own administration is a complete misrepresentation of the facts. It's a shame that the reporters and various media outlets didn't actually do a little investigation into the story rather than just regurgitating the nonsense spouted by Amy and her supporters.

GreatScott wrote:

But surely, she would have been aware of the video camera so why would she be worried about someone actually seeing her hanging on the treadmill? Also, these resting periods might have even been factored in to the final mileage tally.

Perhaps she thought that the GWR (or anyone else) wouldn't actually watch all the video footage. Indeed, if it hadn't been for her internet / news campaign I suspect that SW wouldn't of even looked at the videos.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Bias is every where wrote:

How can we trust that the Scameroo software will accurately account Amy's record (521 miles), when he's been exposed as a hater here on LRC?

The only way we trust anyone, he shows his evidence and his method and invites us to check.

Alternatively he could start an angry petition and buy a social media rent a mob.

I will leave it to the reader to say which they find more compelling.

At least she didn't fake being a Brit. Lol

YorkieCoach wrote:

What really grates me on this specific challenge is the silly #JusticeforAmy social media campaign.

Looking at all the evidence we have in the public domain (GWR rule books and the video clips) it is clear that Amy and her partner never managed to meet the basic requirements of record keeping and independent verification. The whole event was so poorly staged that the only injustice would of been to take the WR from Sharon Gayter and grant it to Amy!

To claim you're a victim of some sort of injustice when the whole issue is down to failures in your own administration is a complete misrepresentation of the facts. It's a shame that the reporters and various media outlets didn't actually do a little investigation into the story rather than just regurgitating the nonsense spouted by Amy and her supporters.

this. Perhaps they deserve the record for incompetence.

I don't believe for s second it's incompetence. When you gain some hard publicity and plaudits for giving the impression you broke the record for consecutive marathon days then it seems all too obvious that you set out to give the impression of breaking another record. Impression and public opinion is what they seem to be after, rather than proving that she actually did anything.

Agreed, for me the previous runs, whole record attempt and subsequent WR claims are all an attempt to raise their profiles and become some sort of running 'Z' list celebrity.

Didn't she get some sort of award for being an inspiration?

Looking at her website, does she have the most pronounced lean of any distance runner ever?

Perhaps this makes her super efficient.

http://amyhughes53.co.uk/

"ON THE RUN

Amy took part in a reality TV show that will be airing on 14 September 2016 on Insight TV."

Has anyone seen this?